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Re: Banks Power Products

Msg # 5180 of 8004 on Powerstroke Diesel Conference (1)
To: Guest, From: Jerry
Time: Wednesday 01-28-98, 06:23 pm
Plus the manufacturer will say, "We built it, we
know more about it than anyone else and we don't
care who your Experts are".  Jerry.
  On Wednesday 01-28-98, 11:39 am, Guest said:
-The party issuing the warranty has only to prove
-that the part in question was not defective.
-Failure of a part is not proof that it is
-defective. The Moss-Magnuson act was implemented to
-keep tha manufacturers from requiring that the
-customer use their brand of filters etc. It also
-required that if the warranty was dependent on
-using only specific brands, the Company is required
-to supply them at no cost. Don't think for one
-minute that Ford or any other manufacturer is going
-to roll over because of what an after-market parts
-manufaturer says. I am anxious to see the warranty.
-They usually read something like" warranty will not
-be voided soley by the use of xxxx products. Thwe
-secret here is soley.
-  On Tuesday 01-27-98, 09:56 pm, Dave said:
--The relevant legislation is the Magnuson-Moss
--Warranty Act. The party issuing the warranty, e.g.
--Ford, has the burden of proof that an aftermarket
--part or service is the cause of a failure of an
OEM
--part. So, even if you throw a rod, Ford has to
--prove that it was due to whatever fiddling you've
--been up to, if they want to deny your warranty
--claim.
--
--Now, what constitutes "proof"?
--
--
--
--  On Tuesday 01-27-98, 07:50 pm, Guest said:
---The factory warranty covers defects in factory
---supplied materials and workmanship. In other
-words,
---if you overstress the engine beyond what the
---factory designed if for by adding aftermarket
---equipment and the failure is not due to a DEFECT
-in
---the factory supplied  equipment, you are Sh*t out
---of luck. No kind of legislation anywhere makes
the
---factory liable for modifications you make. If you
---blow your glow plug relay and have a Banks kit
---installed, of course there is no connection. But
-if
---you throw a connecting rod or fry the tranny
---because you exceeded the design basis-and there
is
---no defect in the part-you are up the creek.
---  On Tuesday 01-27-98, 05:03 pm, Gary Hawkins
-said:
----  On Monday 01-26-98, 11:34 pm, MP said:
-----Banks looks great for added power.  Adding the
-----exhaust and intake systems should be OK, but I
-----think Ford will have a hard time warrantying
any
-----truck with added boost pressure, and especially
---the
-----addition of the added fuel portion.  NO company
-----looks kindly on that.  I will add the kits that
-----affect breathing and exhaust, and save the
added
-----fuel and boost for after warranty time.  If you
---add
-----all, and have driveline or engine problems,
--caused
-----by added power or not, let us know what Ford
--does.
-----I hope they cover it, but would hate to bet a
-new
-----tranny or engine on it.
-----MP
----Check out Banks' web page- they address the
----warranty issue and cite legislation to support
-the
----position.
----EOM
----GH

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