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Re: automatics

Msg # 5190 of 8004 on Powerstroke Diesel Conference (1)
To: Dave Whitmer, From: Jerry
Time: Wednesday 01-28-98, 07:37 pm
Dave, I commonly do wide open neutral and reverse
drops, mainly while warming the truck up in the
morning in my garage. I find this warms both the
engine and trans up real well for that first drive
of the day to breakfast.  Can you do the same with
a manual?  I don't think so. +1 for the auto's.
Jerry.
     
On Wednesday 01-28-98, 01:11 pm, Dave Whitmer
said:
-  On Tuesday 01-27-98, 04:18 pm, Jerry said:
--Stay on top of fluid/filter changes and they
should
--last, unless abused.  Jerry.
--  On Tuesday 01-27-98, 02:55 pm, Guest said:
---  On Tuesday 01-27-98, 11:33 am, Brad W. said:
----
----
----
----One thing I have noticed about automatic
----transmissions, if you look at the
----TSP's, you will
----see many for automatics (Fords or
----anybody elses)
----but very few for manuals.  I also
----read in Trailer
----Life Magazine that the design life
----of a American
----light truck automatic transmision is
----100,000 miles
----(under "normal" driving conditions).
---- The actual
----life varies exponentially with the
----operating
----temperature.  I've had many trucks
----and I have never
----had to replace or repare a manual
----transmission.
----
----               Brad W.
---
---I have built many trucks for myself and others,
-and
---I have never had to replace an auto once built,
---unless submerged or overheated. I cannot say the
---same for U joints, drive shafts, axles or pinion
---gears however.  Clutches and throwout bearings
-tend
---not to go that 100K if used heavily either.
---Flywheels crack, clutch fingers break and disks
---explode.  
---
---While I enjoy shifting an exotic sports car, I do
---not get that same enjoyment from a full size
-truck.
---My point is I think a manual and auto trans both
---have a place in this application and it is unfair
---to dissmiss the auto simply because you think it
---will not be as durable.  Many do go the distance.
---A lot is how you care for them.  
---
---Keith
---
---PS The last time I was at the Ford dealership
here
---in Madison, WI they were rebuilding an E4OD that
---had over 350K and had never been touched.  
---
-
-Lordy!  This automatic vs. manual stuff is much
-more fun than Ford vs ...  And it isn't even
-bashing.  My two cents.  I have trashed football
-knees and I'll never buy another automatic in a
-truck.  Automatics (that don't say Allison on the
-side) have a rough life.  Maybe outstanding
-maintenance & "babying" can make them last, but
-then if you want to baby it along, why spend the
-bucks on a PS?

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