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Re: PowerStroke Oil Leak - Long

Msg # 5029 of 8004 on Powerstroke Diesel Conference (1)
To: Jay Chlebowski, From: Mike McLaughlin
Time: Monday 01-26-98, 03:47 pm
I can see you being real upset - understandable, 
but please remember (and I have to keep telling 
myself this as well) even Porsche can put out a 
vehicle with some problems.  Your problem seems 
to be more the dealership than anything.  Do you 
really feel the engine has been hurt by any of 
these leaks?  If so, and you can justify it, 
There is a chance Ford will put a new one in it.  
If you're worried about the turbo somehow being 
hurt by a new leak or whatever, this would be 
easier to get replaced since Ford seems to have 
caused this leak. Gee this is weird - you have 
Ford tearing into everything to fix a leak and I 
can't get them to do anything but hook up a 
computer!  hehe - oh well.  Good luck.
Mike McLaughlin
  On Monday 01-26-98, 03:36 pm, Jay Chlebowski 
said:
-Howdy All!
-
-Well, I've been getting really frustrated and
-thought I might solicit some advice.
-
-The Truck:  97 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 5-speed/3.54's
-25,xxx miles
-
-The Problem:  A few oil leaks -- see below for
-detail.
-
-History:  At around 9,000 miles, I noticed a 
little
-bit of oil hanging off the two fuel lines at the
-driver's-side front of the engine.  There was
-enough oil on the front engine cross-member to 
gunk
-it up pretty good, but nothing ever hit the 
garage
-floor.
-
-The first service attempt the tightened some 
oil-
-galley bolts, ran it a a couple of miles, and
-pronounced it fixed.  Yeah, right.  By the time 
I
-got it home (about 35 miles), oil was on the two
-fuel lines.
-
-Second service:  more oil bolt tightening, with 
the
-same result.
-
-Third Service:  They can't tell where it's 
coming
-from, so the put some "tracer dye" in the oil.
-BTW, this scared the sh*t out of me when I 
changed
-the oil as it gave the oil a greenish tint, and
-that made me green thinking coolant was getting 
in
-there.  Anyway, they wanted me to bring it back
-when it leaked again.  This I did one day, and 
the
-diesel mechanic (a pretty knowledgeable guy),
-crawled underneath and said it looked like the
-block-mounted oil cooler was leaking.
-
-Fourth Service:  Replace seals and/or oil cooler
-(hard to tell since they never got me a full 
copy
-of the shop order).  Oil leak still present.
-
-Fifth Service (about 2 weeks ago):  I drop it 
off
-on Wednesday & tell them I need it by Thurs
-evening.  I called Weds. afternoon to check on 
it,
-and they guarantee they'll have it for me 
tomorrow.
-I call on Thurs, and find out they are replacing
-the seal on the front cover of the engine.  So I 
go
-down to take a look, and there's my engine 
hooked
-up the hoist, half pulled out of the truck & 
more
-parts sitting on the bench then under the hood.
-Sure enough, front seal looks like hell.  They 
hope
-to have it on Friday.  Call on Friday.  Well, 
they
-found another bad seal and had to remove the oil
-pan -- that means the engine has to be removed.
-Went down and looked at it -- there's a huge 
engine
-sitting in front of my truck & none in it!
-
-So, on the following Tuesday, they get it all
-buttoned back up & I pick it up that evening.
-First problem is that the exhaust back-pressue
-device won't quit for 45 minutes, and the check
-engine light keeps coming on -- I'm about mad
-enough that I can't see straight!  OK, I calm 
down,
-go home, work out & take it out the next day.
-Things seem to settle down & I figure the 
computer
-was just relearning things.  But, what's this?
-We've still got the oil leak in the same spot,
-although there's less of a flow?  And now 
there's a
-bunch of oil in the valley between the cylinder
-banks that seems to be coming from the bottom of
-the turbo?
-
-Now, you all can see why I'm a bit of 
frustrated.
-I'm considering the lemon law, but I love this
-truck & don't want a new model year truck as a
-replacement.  I'm not real keen on the dealer
-cracking it back open, and I've got a bad 
feeling
-that the oil leak from the turbo is damaging 
that
-unit.  I'm thinking I'd like to request a new
-engine, but don't know how Ford works in those
-situations.  Who should I bitch to?  The diesel
-mechanic is pretty knowledgeable & forthright, 
but
-the service manager just recently learned of the 
FW-
-15 additive -- and this dealership sells almost
-exclusively F250HD/F350's.  Scary!
-
-Any suggestions?  I'm not putting my truck down,
-but I'd give anything for the simplicity of my 
old
-Cummins right about now.
-
-Best Regards,
-Jay

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