Re: Mileage/Power Improvement After Brea

Msg # 4981 of 8004 on Powerstroke Diesel Conference (1)
To: Jason, From: Dave and all
Time: Sunday 01-25-98, 10:03 pm
We have been over this subject sooooo many times
and I thought I would throw in my experiences as
well(since i never have) My 97' F-350 CC
4x4(4:10,auto) now has slightly over 3000 miles on
it and is driven a good mix of city and highway. It
has an aluminum toolbox cap on the back and has
usually about 1000# of tools in the back. As of the
last 2 tanks of fuel on mostly highway driving the
MPG was 14.3 and this is by far the best I have
gotten. It was about 11 on the tanks before.This is
much better than the 8 mpg the 460 in a 97' SC it
replaced so I don't complain. Hey, I ordered a chip
that is sure to cost me some MPG but if you can't
afford to feed them,then sell them and get a
Metro.(you can get 3 for the cost of a PSD)
Will the MPG go up after the break
in......probably... but say it goes up 20%, that is
still only 3 mpg at best.Some people make some very
outrageous claims on MPG... and I laugh and say
...yea right and santa is real too, must be using
"new math" in the calculation.
The point is ....who cares, you bought it, if you
didn't do the research and knew going in what you
were getting, then SORRY CHARLIE, live with it or
sell it to someone else.
Headhunter....you are too cool to lose from this
page....tell this chump to bite a big one.   BKC 
  On Sunday 01-25-98, 06:15 pm, Jason said:
-I really hate repeating myself.  If you want to do
-this kind of stuff, use e-mail.  Don't clog up this
-conference with these useless posts.  It's really
-getting to be ridiculous.  No one else cares about
-it or wants to read it.
-
-Jason
-
-
-  On Sunday 01-25-98, 05:01 pm, Dave said:
--Ray,
--
--If I may quote your reply:
--
-----mean to sound testy, but these are trucks and
-not
-----so foreign made, cramp your ass little itty
-bitty
-----truck.  You have a "Man's Truck" and quit
-----complaining about the little shit.
--
--so, don't get on me about language. I could regard
--the entirety of your response as vulgar, foul, or
--whatever, as it totally failed to respond to the
--questions posed in my post, and instead was a
paean
--to how great your truck is, how I shouldn't be
--complaining and instead, presumably act like the
--owner of a "Man's Truck", etc. My impression is
--that your response was substantially devoid of
--facts.
--
--I'm very happy for you that you can afford to take
--the considerable financial losses associated with
--disposing of any truck that fails to meet your
--expectations. I myself prefer to hold the
--manufacturer up to mine. I value tight unit
--tolerances, as loose specs are the primary cause
of
--all component failures, and am seeking the
--experience of others so that I can make some
--statistical judgements about where on the curve my
--particular vehicle sits, and the breadth of that
--curve.
--
--Sincerely,
--David
--
--
--  On Sunday 01-25-98, 04:29 pm, Headhunter said:
---Lava soap works good for your problems.  Get with
---your Dealer, he should know the answers, if not
-you
---should have purchased the truck from one who
---does... in the future please watch your language
-as
---my wife also reads this net and  and I reread my
---post...no poetic waxings there, just honest to
---goodness facts and reality, I mentioned nothing
---about a moped, and I'm not in love with my
-truck...
---it's a truck and nothing more and if it doesn't
---perform as I desire it to...it will be
---history...but it still is a truck... I believe
you
---owe me and everyone else on this site an apology
---and if I'm in the wrong...I will be history on
-this
---site...thanks to you
---Respectfully   
---
---Ray ( Headhunter)
---  On Sunday 01-25-98, 01:45 pm, Dave said:
----Ray,
----
----Try reading the damn post before shooting your
----mouth off with your poetic waxings! I'm making
----direct comparisons between vehicles, not saying
----that it should get the same mileage as a moped!
----
----If you're so damned in love with your truck, go
----outside and hump it, and stop wasting everyone's
----time with reading your drivel - I'm here asking
--for
----help, not erotica.....
----
----I've driven 5 other Powerstrokes, and the worst
-of
----those got 18.4, with the others all over 19. And
-I
----haven't seen much of any seasonal variance in
----mileage on my IDI. Given a conservative median
of
----19, that leaves me down by 15%, which is rather
----much for my tastes. Again, this is poored than
my
----IDI, which consistently runs upper 16s, with a
--high
----of 17.3. I've heard that DI should yield about
-20%
----over IDI, so this definitely has my eyebrows
---raised.
----
----To the other person who's responded thus far: I
----can't see snap idle stuff affecting highway
--mileage
----and top end power. When did the EPA regs
-affecting
----diesels last change? I