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Re: automatics

Msg # 5198 of 8004 on Powerstroke Diesel Conference (1)
To: Bob, From: Kevin
Time: Wednesday 01-28-98, 09:18 pm
Here we go again.... What about you fuel mileage on
the PS in manual vs. auto. I know that most trucks
these days have about a 1 to 2 mph discrepancy. Are
you guys seeing that with the PS? 
 On Wednesday 01-28-98, 02:33 pm, Bob said:
-  On Wednesday 01-28-98, 01:26 pm, JB said:
--I've always tended to side on the manual side as
--they indeed are stronger. However recently some of
--my experiences have begun to sway me that the auto
--is more economically sound long term.
--Specifically while the automatics probably break
--more often (my personal experience is expect 100K
--on the auto, 150K before a clutch on the manual)
--the fact that the industry is geared up to deal
--with the auto's (95%+ penetration) means prices
are
--cheaper.
-
-The 150K figure for a clutch replacement milage is
-fine for largely highway commuting but I believe is
-far too large a number if the vehicle is being used
-in an urban environment.  The constant mile after
-mile of stop-go grid-lock traffic really takes its
-toll on clutchs.  
-My last truck had a standard.  My new one has an
-auto, my first auto in 26 years of driving.  I used
-to live in a rural environment and the manual
-tranny was a no brainer.  Now I live in an urban
-environment and I've had to adapt.  Part of that
-adaptation was getting a truck with an automatic.  
-These days, traffic congestion even spills out well
-beyond the confines of the city.  A couple of week-
-ends ago I made a trip to the mountains, leaving
-Denver via I-70 through the Eisenhower Tunnel on
-the way to my destination.  It took 2.5 hrs. to
-commute the initial 75 miles due to a long stretch
-of stop & go the last few miles of the climb to the
-tunnel.  I was towing the snowmobile trailer so
-pulling a bit of a load up the hill.  That wouldn't
-be any fun at all with a manual tranny, clutches
-don't really like lots of stop & go especially when
-pulling a load and starting out so many times up a
-grade.  It was a similar situation last summer that
-convinced me it was time for an auto.  That time
-with the manual tranny I ended up having to drop
-the truck into low range to reduce the amount of
-time I had to ride the clutch to start out pulling
-the trailer up that grade.  When the traffic
-situation dictates that you will stop-pull forward
-30 ft.-stop continuously for miles, a manual
-doesn't seem to fit the bill.
-So, basically I guess my position on manual vs.
-auto is...,it depends.  Each has it's strong points
-and weak points. 
-
-Bob

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