Re: Mileage/Power Improvement After Brea

Msg # 4985 of 8004 on Powerstroke Diesel Conference (1)
To: Dave and all, From: Dave
Time: Sunday 01-25-98, 10:25 pm
First, thanks for your numbers.
Second, I again take exception to your attitude
that I have no business caring about mileage, which
is a specific objective that I have for the
vehicle. My expectation is based on various reviews
of the PSD written when it was introduced, where a
mileage improvement of 20% over IDI was cited.
Third, I did research the topic prior to purchase,
which you seem to have not noted in my posts. Of 5
PSDs, none fared worse than 18.4 under this
specific test course. Additionally I have extensive
experience with an IDI, which the PSD is supposed
to better. If in fact mileage improves over breakin
by 20% that will bring it into line with my PSD
experience, and the published statements regarding
DI advantage over IDI.
Now, can anybody, rather than telling me what I
ought to and oughtn't give a damn about, address
the issue raised in my post, i.e. tell me how much
improvement they have noted over the course of
their breakin, along with the particulars thereof?
Jason, I regret as much as anybody, if not more,
the unpleasantness that is occuring here, but I
will not be disrespected/ bullied/ harassed/
whatever in a public forum and not make rebuttal in
the same area. I hope that you agree with me that
it is not I who have failed to maintain focus in
this. If this forum's purpose is to share our
experiences with the PSD, surely the editorializing
of these "cool" folk is not contributive thereto.
David
  On Sunday 01-25-98, 10:03 pm, Dave and all said:
-We have been over this subject sooooo many times
-and I thought I would throw in my experiences as
-well(since i never have) My 97' F-350 CC
-4x4(4:10,auto) now has slightly over 3000 miles on
-it and is driven a good mix of city and highway. It
-has an aluminum toolbox cap on the back and has
-usually about 1000# of tools in the back. As of the
-last 2 tanks of fuel on mostly highway driving the
-MPG was 14.3 and this is by far the best I have
-gotten. It was about 11 on the tanks before.This is
-much better than the 8 mpg the 460 in a 97' SC it
-replaced so I don't complain. Hey, I ordered a chip
-that is sure to cost me some MPG but if you can't
-afford to feed them,then sell them and get a
-Metro.(you can get 3 for the cost of a PSD)
-Will the MPG go up after the break
-in......probably... but say it goes up 20%, that is
-still only 3 mpg at best.Some people make some very
-outrageous claims on MPG... and I laugh and say
-...yea right and santa is real too, must be using
-"new math" in the calculation.
-The point is ....who cares, you bought it, if you
-didn't do the research and knew going in what you
-were getting, then SORRY CHARLIE, live with it or
-sell it to someone else.
-Headhunter....you are too cool to lose from this
-page....tell this chump to bite a big one.   BKC 
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-  On Sunday 01-25-98, 06:15 pm, Jason said:
--I really hate repeating myself.  If you want to do
--this kind of stuff, use e-mail.  Don't clog up
this
--conference with these useless posts.  It's really
--getting to be ridiculous.  No one else cares about
--it or wants to read it.
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--Jason
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--  On Sunday 01-25-98, 05:01 pm, Dave said:
---Ray,
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---If I may quote your reply:
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------mean to sound testy, but these are trucks and
--not
------so foreign made, cramp your ass little itty
--bitty
------truck.  You have a "Man's Truck" and quit
------complaining about the little shit.
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---so, don't get on me about language. I could
regard
---the entirety of your response as vulgar, foul, or
---whatever, as it totally failed to respond to the
---questions posed in my post, and instead was a
-paean
---to how great your truck is, how I shouldn't be
---complaining and instead, presumably act like the
---owner of a "Man's Truck", etc. My impression is
---that your response was substantially devoid of
---facts.
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---I'm very happy for you that you can afford to
take
---the considerable financial losses associated with
---disposing of any truck that fails to meet your
---expectations. I myself prefer to hold the
---manufacturer up to mine. I value tight unit
---tolerances, as loose specs are the primary cause
-of
---all component failures, and am seeking the
---experience of others so that I can make some
---statistical judgements about where on the curve
my
---particular vehicle sits, and the breadth of that
---curve.
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---Sincerely,
---David
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---  On Sunday 01-25-98, 04:29 pm, Headhunter said:
----Lava soap works good for your problems.  Get
with
----your Dealer, he should know the answers, if not
--you
----should have purchased the truck from one who
----does... in the future please watch your language
--as
----my wife also reads this net and  and I reread my
----post...no poetic waxings there, ju