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I went to get a replacement battery tonight from Sears and was told that the proper battery was only 700 CCAs while our OEM has 750. This does not sound correct to me so I did not buy it. I mean that is about 8% lower then OEM which bothers me alittle and it just did not sound like a good idea. Does anyone know where I am going to be able to get a battery that will actually work? I have been told that Champion makes one but I am not sure. Anyone got any ideas?? Thanks! 
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I put a couple of Optima Gell Cell red tops in and they work great! I had to mod the battery trays a bit. I plow a lot and tow the camper with the heat and fridge on. I have never had any problems. I wanted to go with smaller batts so i could fit a custom intercooler in but lost the ambition shortly thereafter. You can get Optima red tops at Costco for about $100.00 each. |
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Howdy what do you mean by the "proper" battery ? Do mean the group size or CCA - I recall our batts are group 65 the best of my knowledge that means the size of the case so it will fit the OE clamp. I got 2 - 1000 cca diehard gold's from sears on sale & they were made by Johnson Controls Inc. There for a while, JCI wasnt making diehards to the best of my recollection but they are now. heres a link to JCI - web page Hope this helps Cheers |
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I used to work for Autozone and I never seemed to get many Duralast Gold batteries back on warranty, they work very well. Get two 65-DGN batteries, they are stock size, CCAs are a little higher than stock (875-900) and they have a 3 year free replacement warranty (plus more prorated) They are made bu Johnson Controls. I hate to sound like a salesman (I promice I don't work there anymore) but I use 'em in all my trucks and all my familys trucks, I love them. Currently they are in my '89 F250, My '79 Dodge W150, My uncles '94 F-350, My uncles '79 Mack R685, My grandparrent's '84 F-250, and soon to be in more. They cost 69.99 in my area. Give them a try, I bet you will like them. -Phillip |
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Group 65 is the proper for our trucks -Phillip |
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Its been a while, sorry 
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Thanks for the help guys....I will check AutoZOne tomorrow afternoon. I am fed up with Sears and will see what I can find at autozone. As for the size, I do recall seeing the series 65 several times in the past as being the correct size. Thanks! 
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Hey Phillip, I was close to your area recently...In FLorence KY. Nice place and nice people. Thanks for your help! |
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Thats funny, I was just in your's also. I went to a town called Honcho? outside san antonio, bought my new truck from a guy there, mabey you've seen it running around. Thought the same of your people and place, nice. -Phillip |
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Hondo maybe?? That is just west of SA maybe 30 minutes. Nice nice people. Funny we were in eachothers back yards.... Hope the truck treats you well... If you come back down this way...you will have to let me know. 
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Yea, that's the town. The guy I bought it from was great, he changed the oil, air filter, filled both tanks, and to top it off, he took my girlfriend and I, along with his wife and baby out to dinner and paid for it so we wouldn't have to sit in rush hour traffic. Great guy, -Phillip |
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If tou have a Walmart in your area, they carry the correct batterys. The part number is 65N. These have 800CCA. They have three year free replacment and six year prorate for a total of nine year warranty. They are $60 each. They seem to work well in my truck. |
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Series 65's are correct for our trucks. Factory batteries were rated at 850 CCA. The Autozone Duralast 65's are rated at 750 CCA. I got the Motorcraft Max's (65 series) for roughly the same price at Ford. They are rated at 875 CCA and the warranty is as good (3 year free replacement and 7 or 8 year prorate). Cheers! |
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I just replaced one of my RangeHandler Gold's on Saturday. The Sears batteries keep dying on me. But they keep replacing them under warranty for free. I seem to get two new batteries a year.  The batteries pretty much s*ck  . But I can't bring myself to pay for two new batteries until they tell me they won't replace them. Of course, I have to spend an extra hour a year at Sears.rvd42 |
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Got some at AutoZOne and the difference is amazing!! Thanks for your help guys!!
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Glad to hear it worked out. -Phillip |
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Just a little added information here. Cold weather (24 degrees here is cold!!) ran its coarse with my original MotorCraft batteries. It started getting a little hard to start. Would crank over, fire, skip, sputter and knock with lots of white smoke, sometimes even running a few seconds and then dying. Thought the glow plugs and/or relay was going bad. Went out to start last Sunday and it would spin over but not fire. Watched the tach, no movement. Kept spinning it, but noticed the batteries did not hold up long. Put the charger on it for a little while, then it fired right off. So, I figured it was time for new batteries. Went to Autozone and this is what I found. The "Duralast" is only 750 Cold Cranking Amps at 0 degrees. Since my stock batteries were 850 CCA, I didn't buy. Went to Advanced Auto Parts. Their computer showed the "Titanium" battery to have 850 CCA. Bought two, paid for them. When they sat them on the counter, the label on the top of the battery says 750 CCA at 0 degrees and 935 Cranking Amps at 32 degrees. Got my money back. Went to Ford, ordered two MotorCraft 875 CCA's at 0 degrees. These are also rated at 1000 Cranking Amps at 32 degrees. Installed the MotorCrafts, charged them to peak with the trickle charger. Well, I can't remember the truck ever starting this well. No more knocking and banging or white smoke. Can't hardly get off the switch fast enough. It just lites right up. Only wish I had done this sooner. BTW Duralast = 79.95 ea. Titanium = 79.95 ea. MotorCraft = 79.95 ea. (From Ford..can you believe that??) Gary 
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I used to work for autozone and was just there tonight. The batteries to get are the "Duralast gold" which are the only ones the computer will bring up for our trucks, the have 875-900CCA and are $69.99 You can't go for just any 65 series as some have different CCAs(duralast). -Phillip |
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The Duralast Golds I almost bought from AutoZone were only rated at 750 CCA (see previous post above), that's why I went Motorcraft. Cheers! |
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No, you had the standard duralast, not the duralast golds. I used to sell them every day and have about 11 of them running around in vehicles belonging to me and family. Trust me, I am positive of this. -Phillip |
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Gary, that is eactly the same thing my '97 does when the temp drops. Giving the glow plugs a full cycle before trying to start seems to help, but even then it tends to knock a couple of times and puff a big clould of white smoke out. Now, all I need is a spare $180 for 2 batteries |
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Hey KentuckyDiesel, I'm not doubting your word for one second. So please don't take this wrong. When I went to our local AutoZone in Monroeville, Alabama, this is what happened. I asked for batteries to fit the 95 F350 w/7.3 PS. Their computer terminals are sitting on an angle so that the customer can view it also. The parts guy pulled up the batteries and it showed they only had Duralast in the 65 series. The computer says 750 CCA. I commented to the guy that the originals were 850 CCA, and that I needed a battery with at least 850. He said he couldn't get a battery with 850 CCA's.(Am wondering about that now????) I did not actually look at the batteries as they very well could have been labeled 875-900 CCA. I did ask the price and it was 79.95. Believe it or not but the parts guy just picked up the phone and called the Ford dealership to see if they had any batteries in stock with 850 CCA's. He asked their price and both of us commented that the prices were the same. You would think all AutoZone's are the same, but who knows. Gary |
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I just replaced my two batteries last week with two Interstate Megatron-65s rated @ 875cca. That's the only battery rated for my rig that their computer showed. Very satisfied  with them although prices are a bit higher here in Northern Ca. 
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Phillip, I got the same information as Gary did from AutoZone. That's what showed up on the screen (I did not do a visual on the batteries either). You could be correct, though. I do know (for sure) these were also the Duralast Golds (that's the only one I would have considered anyway). I already knew about the Motorcrafts, so when I saw AutoZone's computer-given spec of 750 CCA, I opted for the Motorcraft Max's. Cheers! |
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If y'all want to talk batteries talk to Swamp Donkey. He is running 4, yes, 4 batteries in his truck and they are all in the stock location.If i remember correctly he is getting about 3400 cranking amps!!! That sucker cranks FAST.
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Anyone ever installed 2- 6 volt batteries in a series to make the 12 volts? Alot of tractors and trucks etc. have batteries this way because it offers more cranking amps. Just wondering if anyone has ever done this and if not, what do some of you electronic guru's think about the idea? How much of an increase in cranking amps could you or would you gain by doing this? Just curious, CD |
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I looked at my stock batteries and they were only 750 CCAs. Is this because I am in an extremely warm climate? South Texas DOes not get down too cold often. The batteries were Motorcraft so I am assuming they were the OEM batteries. Anyhow, I got the 750 CCA batteries from AutoZone and they are making my truck fire up so fast I can not let the key go fast enough. They have made the difference between me sitting there tinkering with it for 10 minutes and me being down the road in that time. No I do have one question for Jonathan if he has 4 batteries.... WHY?? lol I know that the Brownsville area does not get below 32 but maybe once a year.... 
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On the surface it might sound good, But after a little looking/thinking it's probably not nearly as neat as it sounds. 1) costs of 2 12v batteries vs. 2 6v batteries= my money says the 6v will cost much more, plus not as easily located in a pinch. 2) will it work? heck yes. But when you go to jump start or be jumped it won't be done the 'al natural way. You would go from (+) of one battery and (-) of the other. This is likely to catch up to you due to Murphy's Law i.e. when your wife has it or it's loaned out. 3) Battery size (physical) may cause problems to boot. 4) and then of course there might be a little re-routing of the cables. |
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This is strange, I wonder why Autozone would sell different products in different parts of the country? I thought the prices may be different but never thought the battery would be. Oh well, If you come to Ky. you can get a damn good battery from them. Although the other thing that is strange is the fact that their parts warrantys are nationwide which would mean they would have to carry the same part. I bet y'all got ahold of a stupid salesperson. If anyone goes in there take a look at the battery itself and let me know, I'm curious now. -Phillip |
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Autozone batteries http://www1.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?UseCase=C001&UserAction=loadPage |
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I just went with the Interstate Megatrons, they were about $80 or $85 each plus tax. I've always had good luck with Interstate. |
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I hate to say this,but I am a Chevy guy when it comes to cars only , Ford makes the best trucks, Daoge just makes scrape iron. the best batteries we ever found are AC Delco 65 series 1000 CCA, really good batteries. |
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Heres some info: Time for Batteries I just replaced mine a while back and this is the route I took. Glenn |
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Hi Patrick, I went to Autozone this weekend for some misc stuff and I just happened to think about the batteries. I took a look at the series 65 Golds and the battery listed 850 CA and 1000 CCA. My originals (Motorcraft) are only 750. Just my observations. JazzBass |
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The reputation of the Sears Die-Hard battery was built using batteries supplied by Johnson Controls. (JCI) At some point Sears switched to Exide as a supplier, and these batteries did not live up to that reputation. I have heard that they switched back, but can't confirm nor deny that. JCI batteries are available branded as Duralast Gold at Autozone, and also at Costco. Both carry 3 yr. free replacement/8 year prorata warranties. My '97 is still (knock wood) starting on it's origional batteries, but when thier time comes they will most likely be replaced by a pair of these. As for CCA ratings: The way to get a high CCA rating is to use extreamly porus plate material with lots of surface area. Unfortunatly, this tends to degrade quicker than more solid plates...so after a short period, the "stronger" battery will shed plate material, and, assuming it does not die, won't crank with the authority of it's "weaker" kin. The lesson of the hare and tortis applied to lead and sulphuric acid. And, yes, our trucks use the Group 65 size batteries, two of them, to be replaced as a pair, preferably marked with the same date code. |
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KF, Thanks for the info and the tip on the date code. That makes sense. JazzBass |
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Every now and then Consumer Distorts does an article on batteries. I remember reading that it is common for a company to market a "northern" and a "southern" version of a battery, Hence the confusion about Autozone's Duralast Gold. Based on KF's comments, maybe the northern version cranks better, but the southern version lasts longer. |
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shoebear, Yeah, you could be right. As far as I can remember on the Car Fax report, the truck has always been in Colorado, but the original batts are 750s. Go fig. I think you're right. Thanks, JazzBass |
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If you want some good batteries check out the Exide Orbital, go to this link and get gel cel battteries at less than a hundred bucks! Just replace all batts in my boat as well. The 78DT84 has 1000cca at 32degrees and 770cca at 0 degrees. Check into it. http://www.autosupplyusa.com/autbat.html 1996 F-350 Duallie, PSD, E4OD, 220,000 miles, Tymar Intake,Running Boards, Deflecta-Shield.
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