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Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima???
#1936024 - 08/08/04 06:23 PM

Was at Sears earlier looking for batteries for the PSD X. They have the Die-Hard SUV line, gold and silver lines. I noticed all of them didn't match the CCA's of the OEM battery...only 700CCA's vs. 750 CCA's OEM. Good or buy something better?

Was possibly looking to interstate as well. Had good luck with those in my Toyota. If I went with Optimas...which color is best?

I let my X sit for 6 days and couldn't get it to start even with a jump. I needed to charge it for an hour or so. So batteries are next on the list.

Oh...will swapping batteries do anything to my X, I have a SCMT and don't want to have a code come up and not be able to clear it or whatever happens when you disconnect power.

Thanks,

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1936114 - 08/08/04 07:43 PM

I think any quality battery is good if you're replacing the stockers. I'm planning on putting 2 optima's on the passenger side tray when mine wear out and then using the driver's side tray for an aircompressor or some other goodie. (Just my .02)

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1936213 - 08/08/04 09:13 PM

You need to do the DieHard Gold to get the 875 CC amps. The same battery can be purchased under a different name from AutoZone for $10 less. Be sure to get the one that has gold in it name. I just purchased 2 Everstart Maxx from Walmart for $59 each. Not sure it is the same maker as the DieHard but they have the same ratings as them. I have had very good luck with them.
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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1936225 - 08/08/04 09:23 PM

I have always had nothing but good luck out of die hard batteries, but to each is their own. just my .02 Chris

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1936448 - 08/08/04 11:49 PM

I'm a fan of Optima batteries. I have heard u can fit 2 into the space where 1 of the batteries goes. So u can put 1 and 1, 2 in one and leave an empty space, or 4 batteries.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1936469 - 08/09/04 12:11 AM

Take a look at Odyssey. The 1200 amps is 7.87" L, 6.66" W, 7.55" H, 34.4 lbs. They also have a 1700 amp. Web site is http://www.odysseyfactory.com/

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1936705 - 08/09/04 08:23 AM

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You need to do the DieHard Gold to get the 875 CC amps. The same battery can be purchased under a different name from AutoZone for $10 less. Be sure to get the one that has gold in it name. I just purchased 2 Everstart Maxx from Walmart for $59 each. Not sure it is the same maker as the DieHard but they have the same ratings as them. I have had very good luck with them.
Jim




The ones that I looked at said made by Johnson Controls on them.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1936719 - 08/09/04 08:51 AM

Around here therte is a place called Square Deal Battery CO.
They sell refurbished batteries for around $20, and they have a good warranty policy.
Personally, I dont want to pay $50-70 for a battery, but then again Im a car dealer.

Some auto parts stores have refurbished batteries, too.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1936770 - 08/09/04 09:37 AM

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Take a look at Odyssey. The 1200 amps is 7.87" L, 6.66" W, 7.55" H, 34.4 lbs. They also have a 1700 amp. Web site is http://www.odysseyfactory.com/

Dan


There was a discussion about these batteries here.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1936875 - 08/09/04 10:34 AM

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Was possibly looking to interstate as well.




My choice would be a pair of Interstate MTP65.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1936919 - 08/09/04 11:08 AM

Take note of the link provided by haul_n_horses2, the claims of Odyssey for there batteries are VERY misleading. The 1200 and 1700 amp rating are NOT industry standard CCA's. The actual CCA rating is about 1/2 of what they claim. You have to dig but it is on there website.
Regarding Optimas, the CCA rating of the Redtop batteries are slightly more than the OEM Motocrafts but the amp/hour and reserve rating are significantly lower than the OEMs. Buyer beware.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1937538 - 08/09/04 06:53 PM

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Was possibly looking to interstate as well.




My choice would be a pair of Interstate MTP65.





FWIW, This is exactly what I did when my batts went bad. Total cost was about $160 for two (tax included), but the warranty was good and I won't have to worry about it for at least another 5 years.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1937628 - 08/09/04 07:59 PM

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You need to do the DieHard Gold to get the 875 CC amps. The same battery can be purchased under a different name from AutoZone for $10 less. Be sure to get the one that has gold in it name. I just purchased 2 Everstart Maxx from Walmart for $59 each. Not sure it is the same maker as the DieHard but they have the same ratings as them. I have had very good luck with them.
Jim




The ones that I looked at said made by Johnson Controls on them.




When the time comes I think I'm going to go the Everstart Maxx route


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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1937645 - 08/09/04 08:14 PM

No long ago I looked at the Optima website and it said that Optimas were NOT recommended for diesel applications. BTW, there are only 3 or 4 battery manufacturers in the USA. Johnson Controls is the largest and makes Interstate and Costco.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1938410 - 08/10/04 09:30 AM

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You need to do the DieHard Gold to get the 875 CC amps. The same battery can be purchased under a different name from AutoZone for $10 less. Be sure to get the one that has gold in it name. I just purchased 2 Everstart Maxx from Walmart for $59 each. Not sure it is the same maker as the DieHard but they have the same ratings as them. I have had very good luck with them.
Jim




The ones that I looked at said made by Johnson Controls on them.




When the time comes I think I'm going to go the Everstart Maxx route


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Same here, there is a Wal-Mart almost everywhere, and if they go bad, I know I can get it replaced quickly, and with NO hassle.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1938454 - 08/10/04 10:03 AM

I sold my 2 original batteries to a guy that needed them for a boat. $10 for each. Took a couple of junk batteries back for the deposit and brought my cost to $100 for the pair. $30 less than the cost of one Optima. I got a great deal, Walmart did OK and the boat owner got a good deal to. I think this is what is meant by win-win.
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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1938646 - 08/10/04 12:20 PM

I just had a bad start this morning and stopped by Batteries Plus on the way to work.

The batts are the Everstart MAXX from Wally World.

The tested ok with the hand help tested, but as I went to leave, the truck would not start with the GPs on, would start sluggish when the gGPs were off - so I made them bring them inside for a load test. One failed - so I decided to get 2 new ones.

I got the type 65 that was more powerful than the MAXXs. The numbers on the battery plus read 850CCA, 1100CA, and 160 reserve (the old ones were 875, 950, 120?)

These are made by Exide and fit in my battery wells. The MAXXs were always too small and had to be shimmed not to move - the terminals also rubbed on the hood blanket. These new ones fit perfect.

Goto Batteries Plus website to find a dealer.

The warranty is 7 years - the first two are free swap - can't beat it.

$75 each...

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1938763 - 08/10/04 01:42 PM

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Take note of the link provided by haul_n_horses2, the claims of Odyssey for there batteries are VERY misleading. The 1200 and 1700 amp rating are NOT industry standard CCA's. The actual CCA rating is about 1/2 of what they claim. You have to dig but it is on there website.




A quick look at the actual technical specs for the big Odyssey and the Optima RedTop:

Battery------------Odyssey----------Optima

Capacity----------65 Amp-hours-----50 Amp-hours

CCA @ 0 deg F----875 Amps---------750 Amps

CCA @ 32 deg F---1175 Amps--------980 Amps

Reserve Capacity---148 min----------104 min

Weight-------------60.9 lbs---------46 lbs

To me, an electrical engineer, these numbers show that in the short-cycle discharge regime the odyssey and optima are reasonably equivalent. No huge performance gain from the odyssey here, just a good battery with reasonable specs, a large price tag and a little fat in the mass department.

But when you start looking at the odyssey a little more closely you will note that it has the deep discharge characteristics of an Optima Yellowtop. You can discharge the entire 65 Amp-hours up to 400 times with full recovery. You really cannot compare the odyssey to either the optima or OEM battery in the deep-discharge regime. This is what the purchaser of the odyssey is paying for, the combination of decent short-cycle performance with awesome deep-discharge characterstics.

I'll put it this way. If you have lots of cars that are occasionally driven and you use OEM-style or Optima Redtop Batteries you are going to have to use a Battery Switch or Battery Maintainer or you *will* find yourself standing in the garage staring at your dead Redtops in disbelief.

You could go with the Optima Yellowtops but they do not compare in the short-cycle regime, that is, they don't produce the large instantaneous current of the Redtop (or OEM battery) even though they have comparable Amp-hour capacity.

I will be buying 2 Odyssey 1700T batteries in the next year for my truck and 2 more for my garage queens. For me it is more expensive to replace my Redtops that die prematurely due to parasitic impedance and infrequent use than to just pony up for something that can live in that mode of operation.

I try to drive my vehicles once a week but if I get busy and go 2 or 3 weeks I sometimes have problems with the Redtops in my little cars. Been through 4 of them in about 5-6 years.

Not being critical of you T.Parker, just pointing out that there is more to comparing these batts than just the CCA ratings etc. Your previous observation about the Odyssey and Optima warranty is quite true though.

For what its worth, I used to specify, select, and integrate batteries for space vehicles up to 25kW. When I first started in the business a set of SV batts was approx 9 million dollars. Now you can finance small countries for what it cost to put batteries on a satellite.

Scott

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1939303 - 08/10/04 08:31 PM

No problem NRTS. Just trying to point out to the other members to make sure you know what you are getting when you buy these expensive batteries. The amp/hour and reserve capacity rating are MORE important than the CCAs to me in MY situation (Texas climate). I am sure there are some applications where the Optima and Odyessy type batteries are advantageous but in my application, the OEM batteries perform well (my originals are 4 1/2 years old), have greater reserve (140 min) and amp/hour capacity(78 amp/hr), cost less and have a better warranty (compared to a group 65 sized and weight Optima/Odyssey). I never operate in the deep cycle catagorey and I imagine most of the other PSD drivers do not either. Its just a cost/benefit ratio for me. But I still maintain that Odyssey's marketing is somewhat misleading in regards to the CCA rating.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1939698 - 08/11/04 12:01 AM

Update- Ended up going to Wally World. Got 2 Everstart Maxx 65s. About $60 a piece. They fit in the battery wells nicely, and recieve the clamp down to keep them from rattling around.

Truck fired quickly... nice for a change

Should be good for 2 years.I'm happy with that.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1940322 - 08/11/04 12:54 PM

I've had good luck with the original Motorcraft and the price was not bad either. I'll keep the looks all FOMOCO!

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1940361 - 08/11/04 01:15 PM

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I've had good luck with the original Motorcraft and the price was not bad either. I'll keep the looks all FOMOCO!




Nothing wrong with that logic. I worked on vehicles for several years. When I raised the hood I wanted it to look like it hadn't been messed with.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1940442 - 08/11/04 02:00 PM

I would recommend OPTIMAs. When I bought my truck (used, it had about 41k miles), the batteries went dead after 2 weeks. I decided to go OPTIMA. Bought 2 Red Top Optimas. Had no problem for about 3 years. I've run down the batteries couple of times during this time. Well needless to say they went south after about 60 months, but hey OPTIMAS have 6 year manufacturer warranty, and here in the desert no batteries last longer than 4 maybe 5 years. When I had my batteries exchanged for 2 new units I've paid extra $50-$60 bucks and upgrade them to 2 Yellow Top units. I like OPTIMA batteries, I never had any problem with them. I don't think there is any problem installing OPTIMA units in our diesel trucks. OPTIMAs all the way!!!!


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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1940668 - 08/11/04 04:58 PM

I'd stay away from the Die-Hard. Not just because I had lots of problems with them in 2 different vehicles. I used to work at a Sears Auto Center, you would not believe the number of warranty claims/customer complaints on the Die Hard batteries. Their cheap batery was a better performer.

The Motorcraft battery is actually a pretty decent battery and is reasonably priced to boot.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1940803 - 08/11/04 06:27 PM

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you would not believe the number of warranty claims/customer complaints on the Die Hard batteries.




Sure I would. My complaints were ignored by Sears. No more Die Hards for me.....

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1942051 - 08/12/04 12:47 PM

Getting in later here. I remember somebody running a single optima red top last winter in michigan just to see how it would do. That was enough to sell me on them. Now if only Summit will run their killer special on them again!

...danny

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1943063 - 08/13/04 12:20 AM

Diehard is the consumer reports top rated battery. The Walmart Everstart Maxx is the lowest rated.

I have never had an Everstart Maxx last more than a year in any vehicle.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1943283 - 08/13/04 08:17 AM

I have had the Autozone Gold in mine for 50K and 2 years...no problems what so ever.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1944278 - 08/13/04 10:25 PM

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Diehard is the consumer reports top rated battery. The Walmart Everstart Maxx is the lowest rated.

I have never had an Everstart Maxx last more than a year in any vehicle.




IMHO, you'd have to be kind of brain damaged to buy either. But you can never underestimate the power of denial and brand loyalty.

2 years on a battery? The OEM battery is good for at least twice that. I don't want to spend my time rooting around for cheap batteries to save a few dollars. I'm looking at getting 9-10 years out of new batteries in the truck. I also like the idea of having extra current and capacity on-hand for inverter, camper, tailgate at the Dodger game etc. .

Do you really want to be wandering around Long Term Parking Lot-C at LAX at night looking for a jump?

Scott

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1944719 - 08/14/04 10:05 AM

Those OEM batteries will only last that long if you don't actually drive the truck. Most have seen them crap out around 2 years/60k miles, including me.

What kills batteries is vibration, and either the PSD or the front suspension on a 350/450/550 has LOTS of it. If you really want some decent life, the Optimas are much more vibration tolerant, and two years (and a lot of abuse at the hands of my premium 4D aux battery that shorted from vibration after 3 year!) into their life, mine have now outlasted the factory supplied lumps of coal.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1945237 - 08/14/04 08:27 PM

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Those OEM batteries will only last that long if you don't actually drive the truck. Most have seen them crap out around 2 years/60k miles, including me.

What kills batteries is vibration, and either the PSD or the front suspension on a 350/450/550 has LOTS of it. If you really want some decent life, the Optimas are much more vibration tolerant, and two years (and a lot of abuse at the hands of my premium 4D aux battery that shorted from vibration after 3 year!) into their life, mine have now outlasted the factory supplied lumps of coal.

Pat




I see you feel the same way about the batteries as you do about the rest of the truck. There is nothing wrong with Motorcraft batteries. I don't know what the warranty is on the original batteries but as far as I know the warranty on any replacement battery, even if it is a Motorcraft identical to the OEM, is based on time not miles. The average life of an OEM battery is probably closer to 5 years than the less than two you say yours lasted.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1946776 - 08/16/04 12:04 AM

I don't really "feel" anything about the truck or the batteries. I am just reporting what happened to mine, and I have noticed, a great many others (that applies to the truck and its batteries).

I am sure the batteries are no different from any other OEM battery, they are supplied to meet a spec at the minimum cost. If you want better, they aren't likely to be found at ANY dealership, regardless of brand or cost.

Pat

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1947069 - 08/16/04 09:10 AM

Do you think the OEM can't buy an Optima for the same money they are paying for the batteries they are using? I also don't know any reason why a dealership can't sell any brand of battery they want to sell. Your last sentence confused me. What do you mean "regardless of brand or cost"?

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#1947141 - 08/16/04 10:05 AM

Yes, dealerships CAN sell whatever brand as an aftermarket item, but as far as OEM branded, you will not likely ever see a premium battery. As the last sentence implies, that is not a problem exclusive to FoMoCo.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1947158 - 08/16/04 10:22 AM

To add 2 cent's....

My Expedition OEM battery lasted almost 4 years! I replaced it, before it died with an Optima red top. Only had it about 6 months before I got the Ex. but it was great.

Now, I have an Interstate cranking battery in my boat and i added an Optima blue top as a second. The blue top is great for powering stuff, but although it's not a starting battery, even fully charged it strains to crank my 454. The Interstate is original so it's about 4 years old. It's died completly 2-3 times during the winter of 2002. I expected to replace it by now but the darn thing keeps going after 2-4 100% drains and recharges. It can sit for weeks and still crank the boat wiht no problem!

Last winter I did put a trickle charge on from time to time and it's still going. I switch between the 2 when running just to keep each one fresh, but I can say, for cranking, the Interstate needs less care. Again, the blue top is a deep cycle and not a cranking battery so it's not really apples to apples.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1947192 - 08/16/04 10:39 AM

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but as far as OEM branded, you will not likely ever see a premium battery.




This is where we disagree. The OEM batteries are premium batteries.

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#1947303 - 08/16/04 12:06 PM

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1947344 - 08/16/04 12:40 PM

I have been using the Optima yellow top ones for a year now. In alaska the winters can and do get cold. Last year we had temps to the -20 for days and I only had the block heater and the pad that I put on the oil pan. The van would start up. I have left the lights on a few times and after jumping the van with the wifes running car, I am off and running again with no challenges.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1947445 - 08/16/04 02:08 PM

The original Die Hard was made by Globe-Union. That was a hell of a battery. I don't know who makes them now (I believe Globe-Union is long gone) but they are not as stout as they were 20 years ago. I guess the same could be said for a lot of things, including myself.

I have had really good luck with Everstart batteries. I have not ever had one go bad. I either sell the vehicle before they lay down or I still have the battery. The one in my tractor is about 5 years old. I only use the tractor about 1-2 times a year for mowing and I have yet to even have to jump start it. I have not had a Maxx yet, I have been just buying the $30 cheapo Everstart.

In Texas, heat kills batteries more than anything, and it don't seem to matter what you pay, they all last about the same given the same operating conditions. The thing that has prolonged the life of my battery more than anything else I have ever done is I now park my truck in a parking garage during the day. My OEM battery is 4 1/2 years old and still going strong.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1948105 - 08/16/04 09:16 PM

Well, my Monday morning started out with dead batteries. It's funny cause my '97's batteries went out about the same mileage....91k and 2 years old. I finally got a jump from another pickup and went to the closest place to get batteries.....Wallyworld. I got their replacements....MAXX-65S. 700 cold crank hoours and a 3 year total replacement for $58.64 each, installed. I would have liked to have installed Optima redtops, but I'll try these at basically half price.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1948791 - 08/17/04 10:27 AM

I have to say, these Odyssey batteries now have my attention... Don't know what they cost though (compared to, say, YellowTops).

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1948931 - 08/17/04 12:10 PM

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Well, my Monday morning started out with dead batteries. It's funny cause my '97's batteries went out about the same mileage....91k and 2 years old. I finally got a jump from another pickup and went to the closest place to get batteries.....Wallyworld. I got their replacements....MAXX-65S. 700 cold crank hoours and a 3 year total replacement for $58.64 each, installed. I would have liked to have installed Optima redtops, but I'll try these at basically half price.




I can attest to the everstart batts. I drove on my RV for 500 miles with dead alternator. It was gas not Diesel.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1948939 - 08/17/04 12:24 PM

I bought an Optima Redtop battery for my motorhome chassis and it lasted less than a year. I have Delco maintenance-free batteries everywhere else ( motorhome and two trucks)and they are top-notch.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1949072 - 08/17/04 02:13 PM

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I have Delco maintenance-free batteries ( motorhome and two trucks)and they are top-notch.




Yes they are. They are also OEM. I sold aftermarket Delco batteries for a few years. I have tried to figure out why some think the Optima is such a super battery, I can't. The only thing I can see is that nothing will spill from it. I remember the first batteries that I ever saw that wouldn't spill. Anyone remember those Chloride batteries. I can't remember what they were called.

Cota
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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1949111 - 08/17/04 02:50 PM

My trucks been taking longer and longer to start. Finally wouldn't this weekend. Went to costco got there replacement batteries, 1000 CA, 900 CCA, 3 year free replacement, 100 month prorated for $49.99.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1949136 - 08/17/04 03:07 PM

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I have Delco maintenance-free batteries ( motorhome and two trucks)and they are top-notch.




Yes they are. They are also OEM. I sold aftermarket Delco batteries for a few years. I have tried to figure out why some think the Optima is such a super battery, I can't. The only thing I can see is that nothing will spill from it. I remember the first batteries that I ever saw that wouldn't spill. Anyone remember those Chloride batteries. I can't remember what they were called.




Optima are for racing and offroad, where a sealed battery is required. They seem not to last long when used on everyday driven vehicles. My $.02 worth....

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1949140 - 08/17/04 03:09 PM

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1000 CA, 900 CCA,




At what temp are these batteries rated? Normally the CA would be at 32 degrees and the CCA would be at 0 Degrees. At these temps 1000 CA would be about 750 CCA. I was in Clackamas about 20 years ago. I visited a rifle mfg called Kimber of Oregon. They were closed the week I was there. The owner of the company (Greg Warne) met me and graciously gave me a tour. I even picked out a piece of wood and they later made me a rifle using that wood for the stock.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1949355 - 08/17/04 05:27 PM

I used to buy batteries for IH's FARMALL tractor plant. One year IH got them from Delco's Olatha, Ks plant, next year Prestolite in Toledo, Oh., next year back to Delco. I've heard some of those IH spec battieries last 10-12 yrs in farm tractor use. Don't know if they were Delco's or Prestolites.
Battery's in My '96 last just over 5 yrs. I got the next size larger Motorcraft replacements. I was told the Optima's wouldn't clamp down solid on the battery trays of the '94-1/2 to 97's without modifying something. After I heard that I grabbed some wrenches & the checkbook and drove to My Ford Dealer and replaced the batteries in His lot! I live about 20 miles from MY dealer where the closest dealer is only 4-5 miles away. My dealer has parts hours till Midnight and Saturday 7 AM till 5 PM. Other dealer is 8 to 5 five days a week.

Cota
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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1949426 - 08/17/04 06:18 PM

444 will double check the temp ratings but if I remember right that was at 32 and 0 degrees. Looked at several in a short period so I could be confused. Kimber makes some awsome guns but their real proud of them too.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1949540 - 08/17/04 07:52 PM

I like Costco stuff, but the way I travel, if I have a problem, I know there's a Wallyworld just around the corner. Not so with Costco.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1949558 - 08/17/04 08:05 PM

The Optima, Odessy type technology is the coming thing and you will see that type battery as OEM in future years but they have some problems to address first. The current technology has some advantages and disadvantages over convential lead-acid batteries but IMHO, the disadvantages outweigh the advantages. Price, amp/hr rating, reserve rating and warranty are all areas that need to be addressed compared to a equal sized OEM type. There is a lot more to battery performance than its CCA or CA rating.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1950035 - 08/18/04 01:03 AM

If you live near a Costco, use their batteries. They are made by Johnson Controls, makers of Interstate and Die Hard, and the price is much better - $50 each. I have had very good luck with them in my vehicles and fifth wheels - no failures. I haven't needed batteries in my PSD yet; it is only 4 years old.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1950602 - 08/18/04 12:04 PM

I've been running the red tops here in Phoenix for over a year...no glitches or problems.

Most batteries don't last out here more than 3-4 years if you're lucky.

I'm curious to see how long the red tops will last.

Bubba D
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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1950829 - 08/18/04 02:48 PM

The way I look at it, Optima and Walmart batteries both have a 3 year non pro-rated warranty, so I will go with the one who is open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Just in case it needs to be replaced.

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1950832 - 08/18/04 02:50 PM

I noticed that my new Wallyworld batteries were made by Johnson Control, so they must be OK, right?

Wayne B
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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1951131 - 08/18/04 07:02 PM

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Yes they are. They are also OEM. I sold aftermarket Delco batteries for a few years. I have tried to figure out why some think the Optima is such a super battery, I can't. The only thing I can see is that nothing will spill from it.




Delco is having a terrible time with batteries leaking at the terminals. I see this daily. I work at a GM dealer in the parts dept.

The optima allows me to mount both batteries on the same side. This give me room to mount my On Board Air Compressor where the driver side battery was.

Wayne B

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Re: Which battery...DieHard, Interstate, Optima??? new
#1951134 - 08/18/04 07:04 PM

It's not who makes the battery is how much lead they use in the plates.

Wayne B

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