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negative aspects of Tymar Filter
#1913261 - 07/25/04 10:08 AM
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What are the downsides of the Tymar intake? I am still a little hesitant to have an open filter. Is there any application that uses this filter in an enclosure?
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Re: negative aspects of Tymar Filter
#1913286 - 07/25/04 10:43 AM
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Excellent Filtration
Minmum Restriction
High Air Flow
Low Cost
Prolonged Engine Life
Oh shucks, you asked about the downsides. Sorry can't think of any..............
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Re: negative aspects of Tymar Filter
#1913321 - 07/25/04 11:22 AM
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Pulls in hot under hood air. Noise Filter gets no protection from fluids that might leak, splash or any other way end up under the hood.
Still has more restriction than the Ford AIS, that's per the engineer that makes both.
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Re: negative aspects of Tymar Filter
#1913343 - 07/25/04 11:37 AM
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Still has more restriction than the Ford AIS, that's per the engineer that makes both.
Can't wait to see the cannon fodder from that post! LMAO But the truth be said the filter used in the tymar setup (last time I checked) is desinged for the flow of a 5.9L Cummins! See ya, Shane
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Re: negative aspects of Tymar Filter
#1913529 - 07/25/04 02:21 PM
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CLICK HERE
edited to fix screen width problem Larry M., Moderator
Edited by Larry M (07/27/04 06:49 AM)
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Re: negative aspects of Tymar Filter
#1915636 - 07/26/04 08:09 PM
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When i first used a tymar filter " Donaldson" i really did not see much of a difference that the stock airbox with a K&N dropin, i replaced it with a massive K&N cone filter and the difference is night and day. In my opinion the Donaldson filter is way too restrictive for a modified engine.
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Re: negative aspects of Tymar Filter
#1915656 - 07/26/04 08:28 PM
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if it makes more restriction, then please explain why I can only pull 17 inches of water with our equivalent filter and an extra pound or two of boost, but with the stock box, boost falls, and restriction climbs to 27 inches of water or more. The AIS is bound to pull more restriction than either of the aforementioned. The engineer may have been quoting from inside the housing for which is was originally intended. Our empirical data has ALWAYS shown less restriction than any other system we've hooked up our tell-tale gauge to. Drop ins foams, round gauze, they all restrict more. We test this fact nearly every day.
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Re: negative aspects of Tymar Filter
#1915698 - 07/26/04 08:55 PM
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I had a K&N drop in on my early 99 air box, the only other mod to the airbox was i drilled (4) 1-1/2 inch holes in it to help it breath better. Then i got the "Tymar" 4 inch bend, and Donaldson paper filter, My EGT`S increased a little and my boost dropped, I then ordered a Huge K&N cone filter 7 inches in dia by 14 inches long, My EGT`S dropped almost 300 degrees, and i can peg my 35 PSI boost gauge easily. My truck with out a doubt runs better with the K&N. There is no way that the paper Donaldson filter flows better than a K&N cone filter.
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Re: negative aspects of Tymar Filter
#1916138 - 07/27/04 01:18 AM
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The AIS flows pretty well for a mild motor with stock injectors. The filter minder has to be changed if you are increasing air flow like stated in the other post. The stock one with the factory box works just right.
Someone ask what were the down sides of the tymar. Nobody said the tymar wasn't any good, for some it's perfect.
On last thing, it's hard to get an engineer to put anything in writing where they might be proven wrong. If they post it you can bet they are sure. Since they make both the tymar style and the AIS I trust the numbers. The massive big cone filter will out flow any of the others to be sure.
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Re: negative aspects of Tymar Filter
#1916273 - 07/27/04 07:05 AM
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The filter minder has to be changed if you are increasing air flow like stated in the other post.
That's why I installed THESE and monitor both the 25in H20 limit and the 10in H20 rise. I'm using the Amsoil foam filters and see a nominal 5in H20 cruising both loaded and unloaded and "nailing it" with my 6K TT up the hills maxing out my pre turbo EGT at 1250 never have seen over 10in H20 steady state restriction. My current set of filters were last changed at 26K miles and I now have over 42K on my Van. Here are my silicon levels between 26 and 41K miles:
mileage - ppm SI (ppm per mile)
31K - 10 (.00211)
34K - 6 (.00202)
37K - 5 (.00165)
41K - 4 (.01013)
Does anyone see a possible trend the longer the filter is used When I looked at them just recently boy did they look filty, but I'm not changing them yet since looks isn't what I'm after, it performance and filtering efficiency 
BTW thanks for the link, I had missed that one and great info from Jordan as usual IMHO.
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