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Intimidater
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F-550 tow bodys
#1712076 - 03/20/04 02:05 AM

Smokey,what do you think about the composite beds made by Texas Stagecoach? They really make A nice looking composite dually bed, which I prefer the dually look over the flatbed look. I am open for suggestion on beds and on what options to order a F-550. I know I want the 6.0 psd and, 5speed torqueshift,crewcab,lariat,and would like to have 4wd, but If I have to sacrifice much load capacity,then 2wd would be fine. I am also interested in th kz new vision toy hauler,the 41.5 foot job,or the weekend warrior cl4005, both are really nice, the kz gvwr is 18,000lbs and the ww is somewhere around 15,000lbs. I may just buy a F-550 thru a conversion outfit thats already set up and ready to pull. Probably will be 2005 model. Thank you all for suggestions.

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1712347 - 03/20/04 10:35 AM

Intimidater, be sure to look at the Fontaine conversion. They have a great dually bed. I have one and the entire package works great, and the air ride suspension makes it ride like a dream. To see my truck go to photos and enter horsecamper in search. I am still trying to figure how to make a link to my pictures.
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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1712355 - 03/20/04 10:40 AM

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Smokey,what do you think about the composite beds made by Texas Stagecoach?




Texas Stagecoach is a class act in the Houston area. They do excellent work. I haven't seen the tow body you're talking about, but if you like it you probably won't go wrong.

It sounds like it's similar to a Fontaine Classic Traveler. Or perhaps it is a Fontaine Classic Traveler bed they install at Texas Stagecoach?

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I know I want the 6.0 psd and, 5speed torqueshift,crewcab,lariat,and would like to have 4wd, but If I have to sacrifice much load capacity,then 2wd would be fine.




The max GCWR of a 4x4 F-550 is 26,000 pounds. That's not enough if you want to tow a toyhouse with a GVWR over 16,000 pounds.

You need the "High Capacity Trailer Tow Pkg" that gives you 30,000 GCWR and allows you to tow a 5er with a GVWR up to about 20,000 pounds without being overloaded. But that's available only on the F-550 CrewCab 4x2 with automagic tranny and limited slip axle.




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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1712586 - 03/20/04 02:23 PM

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Intimidater, be sure to look at the Fontaine conversion. They have a great dually bed. I have one and the entire package works great, and the air ride suspension makes it ride like a dream. To see my truck go to photos and enter horsecamper in search. I am still trying to figure how to make a link to my pictures.
Greg


Horsecamper, that is the truck I want , that is just awsome,I used one of your pictures for my desk top photo. That exhaust looks good on it to. Do you have any power upgrades? How long is your horse trailer, I have been thinking of maybe going that route to. BEAUTIFUL scenery in the background with the mountains and all. Smokey thank you to for the response.

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1712659 - 03/20/04 07:29 PM

Hi All
Intimidater check my sig

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1712688 - 03/20/04 07:59 PM

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Hi All
Intimidater check my sig


Hi David, I see you have the set-up I have been thinking about. How do you like the performance of your F-550 pulling your 40' toy hauler? That is a nice looking rig. I hope they continue to build the 450 and 550's for a long time to come. They sure make nice looking and safe tow rigs.

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1712722 - 03/20/04 08:30 PM

I called the Texas Stagecoach number last week and they are out of business.

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1712769 - 03/20/04 09:06 PM

Hi All
Intimidater The truck is great but i wish i would have waited for the new Trans.I work part time for chariot and have driven the new ones they are much better for towing.I will be getting the tranney upgraded and will be puttying on a gearvendor unit it has way more gear then what is needed .I had and 18k backhoe and 8k traileron it 2 weekends ago pulled like a champ.I love my KZ looked at them all bfore i bought it
click here Chariot .
Intimidater i sent you a pm

Edited by DAVID A SINK (03/20/04 09:13 PM)

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1713394 - 03/21/04 09:47 AM

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You need the "High Capacity Trailer Tow Pkg" that gives you 30,000 GCWR and allows you to tow a 5er with a GVWR up to about 20,000 pounds without being overloaded. But that's available only on the F-550 CrewCab 4x2 with automagic tranny and limited slip axle.




I just tried to a search for the difference but come up with a lot of information but just not specific. My question is what makes this "High Capacity Trailer Tow Pkg" stronger? What does this have that my truck doesn't? I mean I know the straight forward things like auto, crewcab, 4X2. But why would this be rated to tow more? Looking forward to hearing some news to straighten me out. Thanks a bunch.

Darin

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Edited by SmokeyWren (03/21/04 11:26 AM)

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1713544 - 03/21/04 11:43 AM

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My question is what makes this "High Capacity Trailer Tow Pkg" stronger? What does this have that my truck doesn't?




Ford doesn't say what changes they make to the drivetrain to add towing capacity, other than filling that monster-sized rear end with synthetic lube. They charge only about $166 more invoice than for the same truck with the the same options including the regular towing pkg. So you know they don't do a whole lot for only $166.

But why CrewCab with 176" wheelbase only? Why 4x2 only? If all they did was change the rear axle lube, then they wouldn't have those restrictions. Would they?

More questions to which we'll probably never get a good answer out of Ford.

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1713550 - 03/21/04 11:49 AM

Thank you all for your comments, David I sent you a message. I am still in the decision process so any advice is appreciated.

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1713861 - 03/21/04 04:27 PM

Hi Intimidater, thanks for the kudos !! I LOVE my truck. I upgraded from an 01 350 dually and what a difference. It tows great but the best things are the huge brakes and new transmission !! It still is hard for me to believe how much better the trans is compaired to the old one. The down shifting really saves the brakes. My horse trailer is about 33 ft long. 3 horse slant with a 12' living quarters. This truck tows it very well stock. The only things I have done is change the exhaust to a 4" from the turbo back, added 3 piller gauges, exhaust tempo, trans temp and boost. I am toying with going to the Edge or the Diablo, but don't know which one I want yet. I am also looking at a new intake filter system but find it hard to believe that they would be much better than stock. I went with the Fontaine mainly because of the bed. I can use it for hauling stuff when I am not towing my trailer. I also have a Transfer flow aux fuel tank that gives me 73 gallons total. I fuel up about once a month. If you are looking for a good dealer I would sure recommend Bobby Williams at Sunrise Ford. He treated me great. I am using mine as a daily driver and the airride makes it ride better than my old 350. If I had to do it over again I would go with the same truck again.
Good luck with your search..
Greg

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1714097 - 03/21/04 07:35 PM

Not to be a downer. I would take a look at the fl-60 Freightliner if you are looking for a new rig. I have seen used ones ready to go with 30k miles for around 50k. it is five times the truck the 550 is. I almost have enough saved up to get one. If this POS I have now can go more than 3 months without me having to dump between $800-$9,000 into it($13,200 to date in one year). I have used this truck to haul a 16k fifth wheel 70-80% my GVCW is 28.5k my last Cat reading. A 550 with some gear will hit 11k no sweat. Mine was 9,500 with only the body. The freightliner is a million mile rig with air bags, exhaust brake, ect. A 550 auto crew is 46k after the 13% markup. Then you add the body, true air ride and the exaust brake(voided warranty) you will hit 61k. Just a thought

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1714482 - 03/21/04 11:42 PM

PSD_550_hauler. I was very close to buying a Freightliner Sport Chassis I located in Oklahoma City. The Sport Chassis is converted at the factory as a tow rig and they are superior to any 550 for hauling, if hauling is all that you are going to do. Special air ride with ballist and extra sound proofing custom interiors etc. The problem that I have with them is I need a daily driver and I need the 4x4 because I go into the mountains on rough dirt roads with my horse trailer in tow, every chance I get. In a perfect world I would have a Freightliner Sport Chassis for the times when I tow on the highway and my Fontaine 550 4x4 when I need the 4x4 but I am too chicken to rob a bank !! I understand your frustration with your older 550 but my new 550 will do about 90% of what a Freightliner will do and I can get my truck into a parking garage and the drive thru at McDonalds. I totally agree with you about the great hauling capability and the million mile durability but some of us we need a little more versitility and a 450 or 550 works pretty well.
Good luck with your 550. Hope you can make it last till you get a Freightliner !!
Greg

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1714523 - 03/22/04 12:20 AM

Horsecamper, It was not a Mcdonalds, but I have drove a semi thru a dairy queen drive thru before seriously. I have been a truckdriver the last 6.5 years and I really don't want a tow vehicle that looks like a class 8 truck, If you can imagine, I Am burnt out on that concept. I like the feel and comfort of the wonderful pickup trucks that we have available to us in todays times. The little freightshakers do make good tow vehichles though. I just don't really want one.

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Re: F-550 tow bodys new
#1714608 - 03/22/04 02:35 AM

You should look at www.3wtruckandequipment.com
I am having a 8x12 alminum bed built.
Web site has info on beds air ride & other goodies
thanks tom p

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