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Originally Posted by Lil_R
When will the 2009's be available to order?
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Order in May, build in July, drive it in August.
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How many of you use the X-plan? Is it a big deal to the salesman when you produce a PIN when dealing on a truck?
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Don't even speak to any salesmen. Go straight to a manager - new-car manager, truck manager, fleet manager. Preferably the fleet manager.
The first words out of your mouth after "Hi" should be: "Will you order me a new superduty pickup under the X-Plan?" If the answer is yes, then you're through negotiaiting price for the new wheels. But you still have to negotaite price for your trade-in, if any.
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Regarding trade-in: How much difference in price should I expect from a dealer compared to what my truck is worth in trade-in value according to KBB, NADA, or Edmunds?
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Any dealer will give you wholesale (auction value) for your old wheels. And not more than auction value. So the easiest way to determine that value is to shop your old vehicle to at least two used-truck dealers in your area. Drive onto a lot that has at least a few trucks similar in value to yours. Ask the manager to give you a cash bid on the truck. Compare those two cash bids to the amount your dealer offers. Sell it to the highest bidder. Or sell it to a retail buyer for a higher price if you have the time and inclination.
The blue books are a guide only. They'll give you an idea of how much to expect, but the current market and your exact truck may not match the books. Check all three = Edmunds, KBB, and NADAguides, and use the lowest wholesale price of the three books for your estimate.
