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I approached the 'good' chinese place in our small town again the other day while we were out on a marathon collection run (I was out of town for a few weeks!). As I drove past there, a nicely dressed oriental man was walking out of the kitchen door. I whipped around and jumped out to ask AGAIN about putting a drum there. Again, the dude had no idea what I was saying to him...

I like my little burger joints best. I have them using non-PHO and they will tell anyone else who asks for it NO, they have a guy who's been getting it for a couple years now - bugger off hippie freak! Ok, I made the last part up - but the truth is I promote their busineses and they know it, the renderer has never done that...

My next best sources are the buffets. I have a seafood buffet and a 2 country cookin' buffet restruants. Again, great VO, and lots of it. Oh, we ALL speak the same language. Even my mexican place has owners and managers that speak good english (and they own like 8 restraunts in the area).

Bottom line, there are lots of places to get WVO - the oriental places are not always the best and the language barrier seems to be a problem.

PnyGrl, don't ask'em or let them ask about the 'contract'. Just ask for 'some', on the side from the 'contract'. If no money changes hands, they CAN give it to you if they like you. If they are adament about the contract, find out when its up and be ready to 'take over'. (too much responsibility for me!!) My sources all put the water they wash the fryers with in the renderers dumpster. The renderer may not even know I exist...