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OK,

So, I got to check out and drive both trucks today. The F600 is a Ford Engine Family: LFM07 8EPC7

Model: 165.

Its nice- took a while to get it jumped. Felt like it wasn't shifting, but maybe I just didn't have the space to get the RPMs up.

Couldn't get the dump to dump because the cables were stuck.


The other- the F800 with only 29k was surprisingly rusty, and made me appreciate even more what good condition the F600 is. While the frame and sub-frame of the dump bed seemed good, the inside of the bed is very rusty, and the cab is literally rotting!

This one dumped fine, but then he says it takes about a day to go back down!

I realize both of these are probably minor issues- but I'm wary to get another 'project' as my first dump, and with a bunch of stuff I'm trying to do with it before winter's here full on.

The 600 is an auto (and might have the vacuum over juice brakes you mention) definitely not air.

The 800 is manual, air brakes, and would require a CDL unless all use was "personal".

I didn't write down the name of the motor on the 800, '205' maybe?

I appreciate your thoughts, Navistar, and see the benefit of going larger (just like barns and greenhouses, right- you'll need a bigger one as soon as its done?)

But this particular truck paled in comparison to the 600. ALthough I'd really like to see it dump!

Thanks for any thoughts.