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Old 12-19-2009, 01:01 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Speaking of misinformation........

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Originally Posted by lubbockguy1979 View Post
if there was a worse specific company than edge for tuning and by that i mean specifically trans tuning id like to see it.
neogio is running an Edge Evolution. That is a programmer, just like the SCT and does in fact, have trans tuning in it that is just as "protective" of the trans as the SCT. On top of that, Edge actually used cylinder pressure testing equipment as they wrote the tuning that is installed in the Evolution for the specific purpose of saving the headgaskets... That equipment is something only a couple of SCT custom tuners have. So in truth, Edge is doing far more to make "safe" tuning than most of the SCT custom tuners do.

That said, I don't consider it as a "safe" tuner. In fact, I don't consider any tuner to be safe without headstuds....

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Originally Posted by lubbockguy1979
tuner for tuner. it also cannot do half of what the sct is capible of.
Again, wrong. In fact, the Evolution has more capabilities built into it than most (if not all) of the SCT tuners. The only real drawback to it is, Edge does not do custom tuning. The good news is, there is one company that does make custom tuning for it. PHP. The Gryphon tuner that PHP sells is that same Evolution just painted and marked up differently to release Edge from any liability for the fact PHP's custom programming is not CARB approved like the programs Edge sells.

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Originally Posted by lubbockguy1979
if you use your head and watch yout gauges you can avpoid alot of problems reguardless of what diesel you have psd, cummins, or dmax
I agree with this but I disagree with it too... In most instances, watching the typical boost, pyro and trans gauges will tell you nothing about what is happening to your headgaskets. In fact, even watching coolant temps is probably not going to tell you much, since a headgasket issue is not related to temperatures. Generally speaking, an EGR cooler failure is related to temps but only on a localized level within the cooler itself, so even a coolant temp gauge is of limited value unless you somehow mounted it into the EGR cooler.. So, while having and watching gauges is important to protect things like pistons, turbos, etc... they will not tell you that your headgaskets are in danger.....

Finally, one need only spend a couple of hours on the diesel site of his choice, searching for puking and looking at the tuner of choice for most of those who are puking, to determine what the chances are that an SCT equipped truck will need headgasket work.

BTW, before you proclaim me ignorant of the SCT or a diehard Edge guy, look at my sig........ I own and run an SCT in my own truck. I like it and don't see myself changing to anything different. But I also have headstuds installed.. I just hate to see folks mislead by claims of it being "safe" because it is not. Not even with the so-called "safe tunes". Not even close....
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