http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums Discussion of biodiesel (homegrown or store bought) and other alternative fuels for diesel-powered vehicles. en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:35:55 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/fuel-cells-242360/ Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:33:55 GMT Hydrogen Fuel Cell Buses Rollout In China and Germany
Posted: 15 Nov 2009 06:17 PM PST

Currently, hydrogen fuel cells for the transportation industry lend themselves well to fleet vehicles, forklifts and buses. These vehicles have a central hydrogen refueling station and don’t stray too far from this station.

Across the continents, hydrogen fuel cell buses are rolling out in higher numbers. Take for instance the two hydrogen fuel cells buses that are rolling out and being trialed in the Northeast of china Last year I had talked about the Chinese opening the Beijing Hydrogen Park for the 2008 Olympics.

China had rolled out 20 Volkswagen Passat Lingyu FCVs to showcase in this worldwide event. The hydrogen buses that China is piloting is a project between the University of Sunderland, UK and Shanghai Shen Li High Technology.

Meanwhile, half a world away in Hamburg, Germany the Mercedes-Benz Citaro FuelCELL-Hybrid bus has made its debut on the streets. The bus uses two of the same fuel cell systems as the Mercedes-Benz B-class F-cell cars plus it uses a The field trial of the Citaro hydrogen fuel cell buses are part of the European Union HyFLEET:CUTE plan. In addition, Hamburg will also receive by 2010, 20 more Daimler B-Class F-CELL cars. The introduction and field trials of the hydrogen buses and cars are part of the European Union plan to significantly expand the EU Hydrogen highwas system by 2015.

Fuel cell vehicles finish 707-mile demonstration run in Japan

Toyota, Nissan and Honda all participated in a fuel cell demonstration run in Japan last week. The three automakers brought their most advanced hydrogen fuel cell vehicles out for the two-day trip from Tokyo to Fukuoka with an overnight stop in Osaka. The driving teams piloted a Honda FCX Clarity, a Nissan X-Trail FCV and a Toyota Highlander FCHV-adv. Back in 2007, a Toyota FCHV traveled from Osaka to Tokyo on one tank of H2.

Over the course of the trip the three vehicles covered 706.5 miles and consumed 28.8 kg of hydrogen. That works out to an average of 73.6 miles / kg. One kg of hydrogen has roughly the energy equivalent of one gallon of gasoline, so the mileage works out to about 73-74 mpg.

The drive was organized by the Japan Hydrogen and Fuel cell project. While all three of the automakers are developing plug-in battery electric vehicles, all three also continue to work on fuel cells. Both Toyota and Honda maintain that they feel hydrogen remains the best long term solution for full function vehicles.

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How dare people criticize unsubstantiated beliefs with science and logic, that's rude! ]]> Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels johnm http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/fuel-cells-242360/ http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/biodiesel-go-not-242094/ Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:27:56 GMT I recently purchased an 01 Powerstroke. Thought about running biodiesel fuel. Local place has it. B2/B5 is what it says on the pump. What does this mean and what are the pro's and con's of Biodiesel? ]]> Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels indystroker http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/biodiesel-go-not-242094/ http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/bio-diesel-compatible-fuel-line-242057/ Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:04:15 GMT I just bought a fuel injector installation kit from NAPA part number 2-18447. The fuel line and O-rings are Viton and compatible with Bio-Diesel. What size are the lines that run to the stock water separator on the fire wall? and what length will i need? 1984 f-350 6.9 4x4 auto I just bought a fuel injector installation kit from NAPA part number 2-18447. The fuel line and O-rings are Viton and compatible with Bio-Diesel.

What size are the lines that run to the stock water separator on the fire wall? and what length will i need?

1984 f-350 6.9 4x4 auto ]]> Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels phovan350 http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/bio-diesel-compatible-fuel-line-242057/ http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/peanut-oil-ok-241219/ Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:33:22 GMT I assume peanut oil is fine if not better than wvo considering the first diesels ran on it.I'm getting my oil from a resteraunt that uses peanut oil. Just wanted to make sure there were no probs with doing that.-Rob ]]> Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels ClassicFordGuy http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/peanut-oil-ok-241219/ http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/important-information-regarding-plastic-processors-240804/ Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:23:27 GMT This is a safety warning for anyone thinking of using a plastic processor. I know there are several people using plastic processors but they are taking an extreme risk in doing so. Plastic processors are an extreme fire risk and are usually sold by people watching there bottom line instead of safety. Plastic processors are also highly flammable and can be easily melted if a fire were to start in or around it. I am posting some links at the bottom of the page for everyone to checkout as well a photo of two processors that were involved in a actual fire. Image: http://www.localb100.com/captionthreadrehosts/caption%20contest%20rehosts/burned%20polyethylene%20biodiesel%20processor.JPG Here are some links for everyone to checkout and read through. Plastic / poly-tank processor discussion thread - BioDieselNow - Renewable biodiesel fuel (http://www.biodieselnow.com/forums/t/24551.aspx) Somebody asked why we dont like plastic in processors - Topic Powered by Eve Community (http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/919605551/m/3621035251/p/1) This is a safety warning for anyone thinking of using a plastic processor. I know there are several people using plastic processors but they are taking an extreme risk in doing so. Plastic processors are an extreme fire risk and are usually sold by people watching there bottom line instead of safety. Plastic processors are also highly flammable and can be easily melted if a fire were to start in or around it.
I am posting some links at the bottom of the page for everyone to checkout as well a photo of two processors that were involved in a actual fire.


Here are some links for everyone to checkout and read through.
Plastic / poly-tank processor discussion thread - BioDieselNow - Renewable biodiesel fuel

Somebody asked why we dont like plastic in processors - Topic Powered by Eve Community ]]> Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels blackdog006 http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/important-information-regarding-plastic-processors-240804/ http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/new-site-240769/ Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:51:04 GMT Hello boys and girls. So I'm new to this site and kinda new to the 2006 F-250 Diesel to be honest. I bought mine in June this year, and now I have some extra money and was trying to find the best way to spend it. I was originally going to just put some money towards paying off my truck, but after much thought and studying, I've decided to go with Biodiesel. So i'm thinking I'm going to buy my own Biodiesel processing system along with the biokleen drywashing system, but I really wanted some folks' personal experiences with this in their trucks. I can read about it all day long on different sites, but it's always nice to hear from real people's mouths their experiences. Thanks a bunch in advance.

-Angela ]]> Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels agould http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/new-site-240769/ http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/diy-plug-diesel-electric-hybrid-f250-240668/ Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:59:38 GMT I'm penciling on a diesel-electric retrofit for my 1987 F250.
Goals: Fun, increased torque and acceleration, ability to get max mpg, and bragging rights.
Qualifications: already built my own hi-po electric car.
Basic project specs: 6.9 IDI, 2wd with a t-19 4x4 tranny with the 6.32 granny and 1.00 fourth gear, 3,55 rear end.
Hybridization by adding a 6.7" dc electric motor of up to 156 volts through either the PTO or the transfer case. Both options would allow for electric-only drive, and also to disconnect the electric motor for long highway trips. PTO drive would allow me to continue the project by adding 4wd. However, transfer-case drive allows multiple gear ranges, is probably capable of more torque than the PTO, and has some ability to engage and shift on the fly, while the PTO must be engaged only at a dead stop. Anybody know of a downside to letting the PTO be driven, rather than be the driver, and maximum pto torque and rpm possibilities?
I can put in a lot of electric power; am considering setups of 25 to 120 peak hp, all possible using the same motor, which would only put out about 20 hp continuous, though the motor would rarely be used for more than a minute or two at a time... Max torque output of about 60 lbs.
Any comments or suggestions are welcome. ]]> Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels jray3 http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/diy-plug-diesel-electric-hybrid-f250-240668/ http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/washing-bio-240534/ Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:58:02 GMT OK folks, discuss.... I've got over 2000 gallons of raw oil I'm starting to process and I'm OK on the process end... moving along quickly, but it all bottlenecks at the wash station. I like power washing (I just set the hose spray to 'blast' and mix until I have 1/3 water to 2/3 fuel - it settles out with good separation) which has worked well and a bit faster....but I still have to do it 3 times and wait for settling. Anybody got ideas/experience in washing faster? I wash 3-4 50 gallon batches together in an IBC tote. I'm all ears(eyes)

Thanks! ]]> Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels Crosscountry bound http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/washing-bio-240534/ http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/biodiesel-help-240483/ Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:02:17 GMT Im for PA and have been trying to get into making bio diesel...every restaurant i got to uses a huge recycling company MOPAC. and from what they tell me its free. so my question is how is a guy supposed to compete with that, and whats my best plan of action to get used grease? thanks dean Im for PA and have been trying to get into making bio diesel...every restaurant i got to uses a huge recycling company MOPAC. and from what they tell me its free. so my question is how is a guy supposed to compete with that, and whats my best plan of action to get used grease?


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dean ]]> Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels dlipscomb http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/biodiesel-help-240483/ http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/considering-wmo-240219/ Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:28:10 GMT hey guys im cosidering running wmo. i just got few questions about it first, all that has to do done is filter filter and filter than heat the oil and drive right? please tell me otherwise if not and second could it be mixed with waste atf or is it best not to mix? and last what other oils can be used? thanks guys i am on a tight budget and with my work i travel alot, on my dime, and any dimes saved on fuel sure will help alot.:thumbsup: hey guys im cosidering running wmo. i just got few questions about it first, all that has to do done is filter filter and filter than heat the oil and drive right? please tell me otherwise if not and second could it be mixed with waste atf or is it best not to mix? and last what other oils can be used? thanks guys i am on a tight budget and with my work i travel alot, on my dime, and any dimes saved on fuel sure will help alot.:thumbsup: ]]> Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels f350powerstroke01 http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/considering-wmo-240219/