Cackle kit status report - Diesel Forum

01-30-2001, 11:43 AM

Hi people.

We sent a cackle kit status report yesterday to everyone on the cackle/knock/misfire email list.

We are using a new ISP and experienced some difficulties sending the email. If you did not receive the email or were not on our list, but would like to be, send an email to lux@cadvision.com.

Thanks,

Kim Lux

zahndok · 01-30-2001, 02:06 PM

Has anybody heard anything more on Racor's new fuel conditioner/filter setup for future powerstrokes. Sounds like this is ford's plan for better fuel delivery.

Recycled Racing, Lux and cackle discussions are somewhere between "walking on eggshells" and radioactive on the site. The most valuable discussion on the site has effectively been banished.

Recycled Racing · 01-30-2001, 08:49 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by zahndok:
Recycled Racing, Lux and cackle discussions are somewhere between "walking on eggshells" and radioactive on the site. The most valuable discussion on the site has effectively been banished. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This site never ceases to amaze me! Here we are, all PSD owners, who have problems and insights to others problems. However, whenever somone has a revalation one of two things happens:

1) they get slammed by some dork who thinks he knows what he is talking about because he has 800 posts on the forum. (remember when dennis perry got slamed by some moron (you know who you are) when he made his first "official" post). You probably feel like dung, now that you know he is one of the leading programmers in the country!

2) they get thier posts turned off, or are told that THIS forum is not the right place to discuss it. Why, probably because someone is not getting a cut of the $$$$$!

I watched this site for about a year before I "registered". Of the several posts I have made, it appears that a majority of the responses I have recieved been worded in such a manner to infer that I must be an idiot because I have less than 100 post.

Just because you are capable of typing on a keyboard, and hitting the "submit post" button, does not make you a PSD expert.

There are some people in here who like to help others (myself included). Now I dont sell products to people (i could), so any info I learn I pass on to help the populus. Now, say I come up with a "fix all", and rather than try to explain it, i try to market it ( for a measly $5). Suddenly I am a very bad person, and I am not allowed to talk about it.

While I still think this site is great, I think that we all need to realize that everyone in here is here for one reason, TO HELP OTHERS! Let those who have taken the time to investigate and solve thier own problems pass on the information on. It's not like they are trying to sell a chip.

And as the those individuals who are compelled to "assume" everyone is obviously dummer than them, you won't get a response from me, especial if I know the answer. I would rather help some woho appreciates EVERYONES input.

Jason, I rubbed rubarb with you once aready (hopefully not again). would it be too much to ask for a forum that would permit people who are working out problems on thier own trucks to post the solutions (in their entirety) and also offer the populus the opportunity to buy "kits", if they feel that they are not qualified to build the item in question.

Bottom line is to help each other, I just don't see that happening all the time.

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JLester · 01-30-2001, 10:15 PM

Helping each other is fine. However, why should we allow someone to make money off the site using free publicity? We don't provide the forums for people to make money, they are for users to help each other. When selling things enters the picture, I believe we deserve to get a cut through advertising. Advertising on Ford-Diesel.Com definitely works, we have several who have now signed up for months in advance due to the good response. The problem comes when someone is too cheap to pay for advertising. Maybe it is selfish of us, but if they are using our bandwidth and disk space to make money, I expect to get something in return. It takes money to make money.

As for Lux, we have butted heads in the past over his false promises and NDAs. How can we discuss the cackle kit if he won't allow anyone to talk about it without threatening a lawsuit? The only info we have is what he (as a vendor now) provides. That isn't free discussion to me and I won't allow it on here. He's lucky I didn't delete this whole thread.

Jason

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Recycled Racing · 01-31-2001, 12:06 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by lux:
Hi people.

We sent a cackle kit status report yesterday to everyone on the cackle/knock/misfire email list.

We are using a new ISP and experienced some difficulties sending the email. If you did not receive the email or were not on our list, but would like to be, send an email to lux@cadvision.com.

Thanks,

Kim Lux<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

WHY DON'T YOU POST THIS INFO ON THE FORUM SO ALL OF US CAN SEE WHAT THE PROGRESS IS?

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01-31-2001, 12:35 AM

re:"As for Lux, we have butted heads in the past over his false promises and NDAs."

False promises ? Please explain. NDAs: those are prudent businesswise. I apologize for being such a pain to your readership.

re:"How can we discuss the cackle kit if he won't allow anyone to talk about it without threatening a lawsuit?"

The only lawsuit I have EVER threatened was when one of your readers clearly slandered my name.

re:"The only info we have is what he (as a vendor now) provides. That isn't free discussion to me and I won't allow it on here. He's lucky I didn't delete this whole thread."

I would like to take this opportunity to point out that the truck you used for the chip comparison dyno tests is seriously sick with cackle/knock/misfire issues.

The maximum power that truck put to the ground in stock form was 170 HP. A properly running stock 6 speed PSD will output AT LEAST 200 HP to the rear wheels, regardless of the type of dyno being used.

Jason, if you had any idea of what is involved in the whole cackle/knock/misfire situation, you would cut me a lot more slack and give me a lot more support.

Someday you might be thankful that you had me and my cackle kits on this website, pain in the ass or not !

Kim Lux

[This message has been edited by lux (edited 01-31-2001).]

ChrisW911 · 01-31-2001, 12:41 AM

Recycled Racing I don't think he can because of everything that happen in the past. It works out much better if Kim just e-mails the ones that want to hear what is going on. Kim's post above is to notify the people that want to receive the latest status of the kit, and that he is having trouble sending e-mail. His above post doesn't say anything about what is going on with the kit as per what Jason ask of him a wile back. This also lets the one's know that didn't get an e-mail from Kim to fire another e-mail back to Kim again. If you want to be keep up to date just fire an e-mail to Kim and I am sure he would be more than happy to add you to the list.

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CKing · 01-31-2001, 02:51 AM

Gee Guys don't start nit picking again!!!

I want a Lux Kit if and when I can Understand what it is and hear from satisfied customers not under NDA I'll buy one.

Lux you would have never been able to reach most of us without this Site. Buy a month worth of Advertising and then we can talk all we want.

Personally I like to see a Lux Kit and Chip together to see what happens!!!

mtk · 01-31-2001, 07:35 AM

Well, I can see Jason's point entirely. Mr. Lux is planning on selling this kit, obviously for the purposes of making money. Jason is right-on in expecting a cut of the action if his resources are going to be used to help make that money. Now if Mr. Lux registers his company as a non-profit organization and does all this for the good of mankind, well, then maybe Jason can let him advertise for free.

But speaking of the "cackle kit," what do we know about it? Nothing. There's not been one shred of information provided about this "cackle kit" yet folks are going gaga over it. Personally, I don't understand it. It may turn out to be the best thing since sliced bread, but right now it's vaporware. Until we actually get some data on this "kit," discussion of it is pointless. And I certainly wouldn't put my $10,000 engine on the line without a whole lot more information about it.

NDAs may make good business sense from your side of the fence, but they do absolutely nothing for the potential customer folks on this side of the fence.

01-31-2001, 10:24 AM

CKing

re:"Lux you would have never been able to reach most of us without this Site. Buy a month worth of Advertising and then we can talk all we want."

What the hell am I going to advertise ? The kits are not for sale at this time ! What would you like my banner to read ?

mtk:

re:"But speaking of the "cackle kit," what do we know about it? Nothing. There's not been one shred of information provided about this "cackle kit" yet folks are going gaga over it. Personally, I don't understand it. It may turn out to be the best thing since sliced bread, but right now it's vaporware."

No, it is not vapourware ! Vaporware is something that exists in people's minds and nowhere else. Vapourware is a promise to deliver something that doesn't exist at the moment.

Cackle kits exist. They are running on truck all over the USA. They are not being sold this month because of some very good, sound business reasons. Someday you might know the whole story and you may even thank me for doing what we are presently doing.

re:"NDAs may make good business sense from your side of the fence, but they do absolutely nothing for the potential customer folks on this side of the fence."

At this point in our business plan, we are not trying to impress "folks on [your] side of the fence." I've got people emailing me ready to sell their trucks because they can't get them to run right. I issue status reports to tell those people we have a solution, there is hope. Heck, we've even gotten kits to some of those people, trying to be helpful.

I can't believe the number of people that have all the answers and criticize the hell out of our every move and yet haven't done a thing to fix these trucks.

Kim

JimF · 01-31-2001, 11:21 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by lux:

I can't believe the number of people that have all the answers and criticize the hell out of our every move and yet haven't done a thing to fix these trucks.

Kim <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kim, I for one, support your efforts. I understand the position that you are in. I'm sure that I'll be one of your customers someday that expresses happiness that you didn't give up in your search for a fix. A fix that Ford and Navistar couldn't find, or was unwilling to find.

I miss seeing your postings at this website. Not just about the kit, but about other things as will.

Jim

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Recycled Racing · 01-31-2001, 11:39 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted:
Buy a month worth of Advertising and then we can talk all we want."
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jason,

I see and agree with where you are comming from, however, I was thinking more along the lines of selling kits to help those out who can't, or dont want to assemble the components. A good example would be the 12 AIC. Sure 12 bucks worth of parts at RS and an hours woth of wok aseembling the harness. No big deal for me, but others?

what if we could help them and give them a preassembled harness to splice in. many would be more than willing to help, But would they really be making any money? NO, at best they would probably throw themselves $10 for assebling it. Could they afford to advertise, probably not. This was the point I was originally trying to make.

What if people were permitted to post articles giving full details and parts up on the FAQ....and then alos offer the option to get the "kit" from the author. Helps everyone, and sorta addresses the issue of advertising in my book. I'm Aerospace, not automotive, but if I can help, i usually put my foot forward. Just looking for a media to get GOOD (there's alot of BS flying) info and also get the parts if the sources are not readily available to me, or others.

just trying to make things easier and better for everyone. What do you think? is there a solution that could work? All I want is good inbformation.

PS - sorry about getting everyone all fired up again.

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mtk · 01-31-2001, 03:12 PM

Kim,

With all due respect, the difference between your kit and vaporware, to me, is nil.

There may be "kits running all over the country" but I've never seen one. The folks that have them can't talk about them due to the NDA's.

The only evidence we have that such a kit exists is because you, the creator and person who stands to gain financially from the sale of them, says so. There's no evidence whatsoever in the public domain of this kit or anything else about it.

If that ain't vaporware I don't know what is.

Put yourself in my shoes for a minute. If I told you that I had this wonderful widget that would make your $40,000 truck into the WonderTruck, yet I provided no data on the kit, did not allow the beta-testers to speak in public, or anything else, you'd be skeptical. If you weren't, I'd seriously question your judgement.

Don't get me wrong, I hope you really do have the cackle thing licked. I hope you make a fortune on it. Depending on what it is and what it does, I may even buy one myself. But until such time as the details are made public, it's vaporware and nothing more.

DigitalDriver · 01-31-2001, 09:36 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by mtk:
Kim,

With all due respect, the difference between your kit and vaporware, to me, is nil.

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The only evidence we have that such a kit exists is because you, the creator and person who stands to gain financially from the sale of them, says so. There's no evidence whatsoever in the public domain of this kit or anything else about it.

...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's not quite correct. There have been some comments posted here by people with early versions of the kit, e.g., Off-Road.com. See http://forums.ford-diesel.com/ubb/Fo...L/002967.html, http://forums.ford-diesel.com/ubb/Fo...L/002979.html, and http://forums.ford-diesel.com/ubb/Fo...L/002987.html. All three of those discussions were started by Off-Road.com, with the bottom line being that Kim's kit "...just about eliminated all cackle" but, at that time (late September) did not cure the knock. I consider Off-Road.com's statements in a (nearly) public forum evidence of the existence of the kit.

Do I want to know more? Sure!

Bob

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CKing · 01-31-2001, 09:57 PM

TO LUX

If your sure your going to sell the Kits, be like most companies advertise before you sell it to build up demand. Also the best way to get Loans from Banks is proof of Demand. Just makes me think that your not sure the product will make it to the market.

I checked the cost of month Add $200.00. Seems like a cheap price to be able to discuss your product with interested customers.