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Old 06-16-1999, 07:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Server hardware

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I noticed from the specs you posted on the new server that you're using an Asus motherboard. Have you had any difficulty with it (setup or operation) at all? My (sort of) new system I built using the Asus P5A-B with an AMD K6-2 was a breeze to set up. I've heard from one or two other computer guys that Asus boards are a bit spotty, but the customer ratings on TC Computers web site (where I bought mine) are very high. I'm getting close to upgrading the family's P200 with a P5A board and K6-III, so that's why I'm wondering what you're take on these boards is.

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Old 06-16-1999, 08:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Server hardware

I am running the P2L97 and have had zero problems with it. Asus is highly regarded in the "Build yo own box" industry. Abit boards are also very in demand because of quality and the sheer flexiblilty they offer when setting up your system (Read: Overclockability out the wazoo!).

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Old 06-16-1999, 08:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Server hardware

Too bad Abit doesn't offer a Super7 board. If you couldn't tell I'm in the "Intel OUTside" camp (no, not just because of the CPU ID#).

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Old 06-16-1999, 09:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Server hardware

As Shawn said, Asus is rated highly be everyone I know .. especially the Super 7 boards. You can run just about any processor at any speed on one of them. I had problems with my first one from TC Computers. I don't know if it was the board, CPU, or memory. After several phone calls, TC replaced all three. The server has been up now for 91 days without a reboot. That says something for their reliability.

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Re: Server hardware

Also says much about not using Windoze

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Re: Server hardware

Yep, that too! Since you mentioned it ...

We have two Compaq Proliant 3000s at work .. one running NT 4.0 and one running RedHat Linux 6.0. I just finished installing the Linux one on Monday, so don't know much about reliability yet. The NT server has done very well .. much better than most people get. I can't ever remember rebooting it for a crash. It is heavily used too. It runs the entire website for Washington County Schools and all the school e-mail accounts.

I think people buy cheap hardware and use bad software and that's what really crashes the servers. The first thing I do to NT is remove IIS. We use Netscape Enterprise Webserver and Netscape Messenger Mail Server. Both are rock solid on NT 4 with SP3.

The NT machine has 320MB memory, 27GB Raid5 hard drive space, and a single PII 300. The new one has 640MB memory, 36GB hard drive space, and dual PII-450's. Will be interesting to compare performance and reliability. The Linux one will be the proxy/firewall for the entire county (approx 1000 simultaneous users browsing the web), 8000 e-mail accounts, and will get a good workout. It's replacing an aging Sun UltraSparc that was really getting hammered last semester.

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Re: Server hardware

Since Shawn brought up overclocking-
AMD processors aren't extremely tolerant of overclocking. Right now I have the K6-2 400 O/C'd to 473 MHz (4.5x105 @2.2v) with no stability problems. When I tried 495 MHz (4.5x110 @ 2.4v), crash and burn. I think the AGP bus was running too fast for the card. I might try 500 MHz (5.0x100) just for giggles, but I'm not expecting miracles. Makes me wonder how in the world those Celery 300As get over 500...

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The AGP/PCI buses are usually the weak link when overclocking. If you have a good processor, good memory, and good cooling, overclocking is easy.

AMD's are usually at or near their rated limits. Intel usually has a ton of reserve left in them.

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