You mods are killing me. It was not a question or a suggestion directed towards you or this site as a group, but specifically to the users of the IDI forums.
It's a site issue, and it belongs in News Comments and Suggestions, because the Admins are the ones that are going to act on it.
As it states at the top of this forum: News, Comments, and Suggestions Discussion of TheDieselStop.Com itself. What do you like or don't like, kudos and complaints, comments and suggestions.
I'll post a sticky in both IDI forums with a link to this thread for you guys that only seem to want to look at one forum.
I vote no. The other site I am a part of with combined catagory pre powerstroke diesels is some what of a mess. Keep it real and long live the 6.9L !!!!!!!!!!!
cant see why there would be a mess? folks should say they got a 7.3 or 6.9 but there the same motor to me. 6.9s burn oil and 7.3s cavatate. thats the only differance to me!
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personally i think its more organized if we leave them separate
this way theres less confusion because not everyone says i have a 6.9 or a 7.3 and it can get confusing because with the 6.9's there is some minor differances then the 7.3
just my 2 cents
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like it has been mentioned, the forums deal with more than the engine, there are alot of other systems in these trucks, not to mention that if they are combined there will be twice as many posts to sort through to find an answer. at least the way it is, the job of sorting pre or post 1989(i think that's the year) is already done, and like cdsarguy kind of said, if they are combined, there is a much broader range of axles, wiring issues, fuel systems, and body types, sigs would have to be manditory and reference to witch veh.
more typing, more searching, more..please give more details on the vehicle, ..not as wonderful as people think it would be
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mine - 1992 f250, 7.3 zf5 close ratio, 4*4, 4.10 gears,ext cab, long bed,reman 1994 IDT engine, and ats turbo to boot!!(insert grunting sound here!!)291100 and counting
dads - 1990 f250 2wd, ip may be tweaked, stage 1 injectors? maybee, 7.3 zf5 wide ratio,stock, needs paint and pyro.
grandpa's - 1989 f250 7.3, e4od, 4" straight pipe roar, 2wd stock, not planning on many mods.
pulls a 5w 20? ft camper, or bumper tool trailer\wood hauler(heats w\ wood)
like it has been mentioned, the forums deal with more than the engine, there are alot of other systems in these trucks, not to mention that if they are combined there will be twice as many posts to sort through to find an answer. at least the way it is, the job of sorting pre or post 1989(i think that's the year) is already done, and like cdsarguy kind of said, if they are combined, there is a much broader range of axles, wiring issues, fuel systems, and body types, sigs would have to be manditory and reference to witch veh.
more typing, more searching, more..please give more details on the vehicle, ..not as wonderful as people think it would be
Nah......I disagree. Both the 6.9 and 7.3 can be found with the 10.25 rear axle, Dana 60 (F350) or Dana 44/50 (F250), ZF5, solid state glow plug system, C6 tranny, 1356 T-case. Also the 6.9 and 7.3 were found in the '87-'91 body styles. Wiring changes have to do with body style not engine size.
You cannot assume anything based on the displacment of the IDI in the truck. Signatures with truck info are vital reguardless if there are one or two forums.
Heath
__________________ 1986 F250HD 4x4 7.3L IDI '95 PSD front clip, '97 bed, T19, D60/10.25 with 3.55's. Rebuilt from the frame up. Banks Turbo, DPS IP & Stage 1's, Isspro TTM, Banks Exhaust, Boost gauge, Pyrometer, Precharged Coolant Filter, Holley Red Pump. 16.5 x 37 x 12.5 Goodyear Wrangler's, Air Horns. 6in lift, Fresh Paint, On-board Air. Revamped Interior. Rhino Liner.
I rarely wander into the 7.3 area and I don't spend much time at the other site because the 7.3 info tends to bury the 6.9 stuff.
While the signiture info is very important, it is at the bottom of the post.
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1995 Toyota Camry DX: 2.2L, Bolt-action 5-speed, AC, PS, PB, CC.
Triple A-pillar pod: Isspro EV voltage and oil-pressure gauges.
Road-Watch System (Air and road-surface temperature gauge).
Chicken Lights Gone.
Don't dare mix my 7.3L with a 6.9L.
No vote here.
I think it will only take a tread longer to get the answer you are looking for if it is combined.
When you have two seperate ones, it's more to the point.
IMHO...............
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Nah......I disagree. Both the 6.9 and 7.3 can be found with the 10.25 rear axle, Dana 60 (F350) or Dana 44/50 (F250), ZF5, solid state glow plug system, C6 tranny, 1356 T-case. Also the 6.9 and 7.3 were found in the '87-'91 body styles. Wiring changes have to do with body style not engine size.
You cannot assume anything based on the displacment of the IDI in the truck. Signatures with truck info are vital reguardless if there are one or two forums.
Heath
theres more differnces then you think there are
the only 6.9 that had the zf-5 stock was the 1987 modle year and that was only untill the half way point (same with it being in the 87-89 style)
the entire glowplug wireing for the 6.9 and 7.3 are different
if you have a 90+ 7.3 you have the E4OD which the 6.9 never came with
the 6.9 manly had the T-19 4 speed while the 7.3 always came stock with the zf-5 (except the 99+ model years)
the T-19 uses a linkage system clutch insted of the zf-5 which uses a hydrolic clutch
like i said i vote no because it will get to confusing but if you do combine them we need more then 20 posts per page and make up to date signitures manditory
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A few more comments and I'm done with this thread:
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Originally Posted by 7.3L F-250
the entire glowplug wireing for the 6.9 and 7.3 are different
Not true...the '87 6.9 had the solid state glow plug system like the 7.3.
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Originally Posted by 7.3L F-250
the T-19 uses a linkage system clutch insted of the zf-5 which uses a hydrolic clutch
Not true....they are BOTH hydraulic systems.
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Originally Posted by 7.3L F-250
like i said i vote no because it will get to confusing
Nah.......it's very simple to follow posts and answer questions. It's not confusing at all as it works flawlessley on better boards than this one. But, change is not for everyone.
Heath
__________________ 1986 F250HD 4x4 7.3L IDI '95 PSD front clip, '97 bed, T19, D60/10.25 with 3.55's. Rebuilt from the frame up. Banks Turbo, DPS IP & Stage 1's, Isspro TTM, Banks Exhaust, Boost gauge, Pyrometer, Precharged Coolant Filter, Holley Red Pump. 16.5 x 37 x 12.5 Goodyear Wrangler's, Air Horns. 6in lift, Fresh Paint, On-board Air. Revamped Interior. Rhino Liner.
Put them back together the way they used to be. Oh? You didn't know they were once one and the same? Guess I'm showing my age, and how long it takes to get over 15,000 posts on here. There was no reason to seperate them then, and there isn't now. If they were together, we wouldn't have posts like "I want to convert my 4 speed to a 5 speed, but I have no idea what trans to use" (no offense to the poster of that, but it's just plain rediculous when the answer is in an adjacent forum).
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