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General questions related to 1999-Up Super Duty trucks. If it doesn't fit the other categories, post it here. Gas engine discussion that pertains to all models is allowed. Specific gas engine questions should use the Gas Engines forum.
It is the " If it doesn't fit the other categories, post it here" that I am talking about and IMO diesel prices fit this category.
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It was just a little ranting. Sorry. Smokey moved a thread because it was discussing diesel prices. I think this thread will be gone soon also.
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PSD 4x4 250 CC shortbox, Island Blue 2001, auto, scmt 1705, new AIS replacement filter from Ford, noise sheilds, fender flares, under cubby pod w/wd gauges, Tekonsha Voyager brake control, Lund poly screen front, and it's SOLD! Just under 44000 miles $25,000
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General Questions (7 viewing)
General questions related to 1999-Up Super Duty trucks.
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Normally, we don't discuss moderations in the public forums. But I thought I'd bend the rules a bit for this one, because others are probably interested in the answer. And moving a thread is not really a "moderation" - just an admin decision. And since you made it public, apparently you don't mind it being discussed in public. So hopefully Jason won't fuss at me for bending the rules. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
The topic is the price of diesel fuel.
The '99-up General Questions forum is only for discussion of '99-up PSDs.
But diesel prices also affect '94-'97 PSDs, 7.3L IDIs, 6.9L diesels, vans, medium-duty trucks, and others. Are we going to discriminate against those other members and not advise them of our discussions about diesel prices? No. Of course not.
So Jason and his admin staff got together a few years ago and determined that all discussion of diesel prices would be on topic only in the "General Diesel" forum. We could have chosen the "Other" forum, but General Diesel seemed more appropriate at the time.
So don't fuss at me. I just do what the boss tells me to do. Fuss at Jason. He's the boss. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/warmsmile.gif[/img]
Doesnt sound like any fussin necessary....pretty logical explanation I think!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Smokey, I am not trying to be a smart ass, I am just trying to figure out what makes a particular subject OK for the forum or not. This thread is currently on the General forum as well as one about Power Service fuel treatment. What makes them differant than diesel fuel prices? I really am just trying to learn!
Went into a Walmart in East Texas the other day to get tire plugs for the fourwheeler and decided to see if they had any oil filters for my PSD cheap. To my surprise that has like 18 of them left. I thought great I sell half of them and have me some free filters.
Went and takked to the manager in the auto. dept. and he said they couldn't deal because next month wally-world is going to start stocking Mototcraft again.
Any truth to this???
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PSD 4x4 250 CC shortbox, Island Blue 2001, auto, scmt 1705, new AIS replacement filter from Ford, noise sheilds, fender flares, under cubby pod w/wd gauges, Tekonsha Voyager brake control, Lund poly screen front, and it's SOLD! Just under 44000 miles $25,000
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What makes them differant than diesel fuel prices?
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Good point. Mark one down for Otis. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/warmsmile.gif[/img]
The primary difference is that diesel price threads come up frequently, so the moderators are familiar with moving them to General Diesel.
The ones you cited are more rare. Before a moderator can move one of those, he has to have enough interest in the topic to open the thread and read the topic. The moderators are not assigned forums or topics - we read only what we want to spend our time on. (We're here for the same reason you're here - pleasure. And I'll bet you don't read every thread in every forum.) So if none of the moderators reads that thread then the only way to get the attention of a moderator is to click on the "notify moderator" button at the end of the post. And if nobody clicks the notify moderator button, then the thread doesn't get moved.
And even if someone clicks the notify moderator button, that doesn't guarantee that any action will be taken. The moderators that read that message might all decide there's nothing wrong with discussing oil filter availability at Wal-Mart in the '99-up General Questions. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
Thanks for taking the time to explain the system. Also, the site is awsome and has helped me many times over!!!
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PSD 4x4 250 CC shortbox, Island Blue 2001, auto, scmt 1705, new AIS replacement filter from Ford, noise sheilds, fender flares, under cubby pod w/wd gauges, Tekonsha Voyager brake control, Lund poly screen front, and it's SOLD! Just under 44000 miles $25,000
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The moderators that read that message might all decide there's nothing wrong with discussing oil filter availability at Wal-Mart in the '99-up General Questions.
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I read it and considered it on topic there just as it would be in the 94-97 general forum since it says PSD filter which is a FL1995. Now the 7.3IDI and 6.9 use a different filter so that specific question doesn't apply if asked in those forums. Even generically like the fuel additive it might even be argued to be on topic in any of the different "general" engine forums depending on who is asking it as long as it's phrase to the M/C filters for that particular engine. I might even make an argument if not voted to be allowed where it was then it might go into the OTQ vice the "General Diesel", but all that is for discussion amongst us in a more private venue since there is a vote that makes things final depending on how he wants his site to be run or look like [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
As to the fuel additive it does unlike the price of diesel have something to do technically with the engine and might be different since the 99+ uses the HEUI split shot injectors and electric fuel pump, the 94-97 uses non split shot injectors and a mechanical fuel pump and the 7.3IDI use things way different that I'm just not familiar with. Thus that thread might be on topic in about any forum depending on who is asking it, only restriction is that the person choose the best forum and only ask it once since dupe posting is a no-no [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
I guess I'm taking a different view than even you somewhat, but thats fine and we will work out any serious disagrements in the appropriate venue which is not here [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/warmsmile.gif[/img]
ON EDIT I guess my post sort of illustrates that even amongst us we might not always agree 100% on 100% of the topics, but we don't dwell on the minor things or look for other minor issues unimportant in the overall scheme of things like this price of diesel IMO and move on to more important issues.
Larry
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....since it says PSD filter which is a FL1995. Now the 7.3IDI and 6.9 use a different filter so that specific question doesn't apply if asked in those forums.
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....since it says PSD filter which is a FL1995. Now the 7.3IDI and 6.9 use a different filter so that specific question doesn't apply if asked in those forums.
[/ QUOTE ]The FL1995 filter also fits the 6.9 and 7.3 IDI. And quite a number of us use it on our IDI's. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] I didn't know that and that's why I don't muck around in those forums or the 6.0L forum much since the ole saying "a loose cannon on a rolling ship" comes to mind [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
I did a quick search in the 6.9L and 7.3IDI forums on "oil filter" and found a thread in each listing the filter # I referred to and based my answer to some extent on that information so you can see it's easy at times to make an "innocent" mistake. Thus IMO the filter question just like the fuel additive question could have been on topic in those forums as well. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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2001PSD(PCM:HPI2)SD E-350,Dk Emerald Grn,4.10LS, <font color="blue">Mustang dyno - 183.9/400.4 stock</font> [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], BTS w/Schaeffer's ATF[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] , ITP 3.5"/4" exhaust w/Magnaflow & Aeroturbine,Dieselsite 203* T-stat/Zerex G-05,F.Pwr, Ext/Int. Upgd. pkg,R. Bds,AIC,Tow Pkg, Rear & Slider windows,<font color="red">AMSOIL air, oil-bypass & rear end 75w-140 fluid ,<font color="blue">3/8" fuel sys w/10µ Dieselsite DAHL100 & fuel manifold/sight glass</font>,6 way dr. pwr. seat, Magnefine trans/P.S. filters</font>, husky mats,<font color="red">5 gauge A-pillar ISSPRO EVs w/Grn mkr illum. + air & fuel restriction gauges</font>,Dieselsite coolant filter and zinc electrode, manual GPR switch & GP LED, blinking security LED, weathertechs, a few other "Gadgets" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], & a 1981 26' Prowler TT(26Y)
[/ QUOTE ]I did a quick search in the 6.9L and 7.3IDI forums on "oil filter" and found a thread in each listing the filter # I referred to and based my answer to some extent on that information so you can see it's easy at times to make an "innocent" mistake. Thus IMO the filter question just like the fuel additive question could have been on topic in those forums as well. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]Larry
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So does that mean as usuall that you Jumped to a conclution without getting all the facts. and the called it a innocent mistake.Sounds normal for this site. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
No...it means they took the time to look.... thought about it... made a decission.... and then got on with thier lives. Simple as that. There are no "mistakes" in moderating. Just judgements. Not realy all that important. Sometimes the choice to move it actualy is benificial to the thread. I often moved threads to more widely viewed forums just for that reason. Its not about punishment. Its about organization and sometimes even about furthering the discussion. Those things cross a good moderators mind. And he makes a choice and moves on. Sometimes, even later, the thread changes direction on him. And on revisit he then might even adjust where it is again due to that. No moderator can read every single thread nor then follow every single reply. He spot checks. Moves about. And goes with his gut reaction based on a general set of principles that he applies "at the time" of his view of that thread so far. And using generaly accepted guidelines the other moderators have discussed and agreed upon. Its thankless work. Just assume they are doing it with good intentions. And most often they are. You don't always see the thread at the same point of evolution as they do. So you might be a bit misslead as to why they did it at the time. It's no big thing. It's not a punishment.
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I did a quick search in the 6.9L and 7.3IDI forums on "oil filter" and found a thread in each listing the filter # I referred to and based my answer to some extent on that information so you can see it's easy at times to make an "innocent" mistake. Thus IMO the filter question just like the fuel additive question could have been on topic in those forums as well. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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No...it means they took the time to look.... thought about it... made a decission....
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