Smokey! A little to selective? - Page 2 - Diesel Forum

cphilip · 07-13-2005, 03:18 PM

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I did a quick search in the 6.9L and 7.3IDI forums on "oil filter" and found a thread in each listing the filter # I referred to and based my answer to some extent on that information so you can see it's easy at times to make an "innocent" mistake. Thus IMO the filter question just like the fuel additive question could have been on topic in those forums as well. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Larry

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No...it means they took the time to look.... thought about it... made a decission....

dont sound like we are reading the same post.

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I was talking about the whole situation in general. Not about a specific point of any one choice made in the process.

j_apetersen · 07-13-2005, 05:14 PM

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No...it means they took the time to look.... thought about it... made a decission....

dont sound like we are reading the same post.

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I was talking about the whole situation in general. Not about a specific point of any one choice made in the process.

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But I was talking about larrys answer to the post and you said I was wrong.Ill say it again Dont sound like he took the time to get the whole story before posting. The rules that lester posted said read the post before replying to me that means read all and if you have something to say say it and show the poster why he is wrong. dont just flap fingers. So again dont sound like we are reading thesame post.

Larry M · 07-13-2005, 06:13 PM

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So does that mean as usuall that you Jumped to a conclution without getting all the facts. and the called it a innocent mistake.Sounds normal for this site. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

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Not at all IMO if you read my posts carefully since you are the only member that has had a question or further comment on this bascially month old dead topic so I consider the posts until you bringing this thread back to life have stood the test of time by the vast majority of the membership who understood what I was saying. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/warmsmile.gif[/img]

Also, it appears you have other "issues/opinons" (again IMO) which is of course your right, but I don't think I can help you in resolving them and certainly not in this venue and probably not even privately.

Sorry,

Larry

**bugman** · 07-13-2005, 11:52 PM

I think that you will find with 50,000 + members that you will find a difference of opinions quite often. As Larry said he made a mistake and admitted it, not like some members here that think that the only right answer is theirs. I just wished that I was as perfect as some on here and that I knew all the answers. If that was the case then I wouldn't need this forum to get new information. I think that the whole point here is to read, learn, and respect the others opinion. While I don't own a 6.0 yet I frequent the forum just for information, and in reading them I could answer some of the questions that are asked. I love to get information as long as it is right and will work, and not some bandade that will work for 5 minutes and then cause more problems. A point is case is that I can fab a mount that will alow just about any oil filter to fit any of our trucks. Will it work? Yes, but for how long and is it proper? Is it right? No. Just because Joe down the block did it doesn't mean that it will work on every truck or car in the world.

IMO Jim

cphilip · 07-14-2005, 10:40 AM

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No...it means they took the time to look.... thought about it... made a decission....

dont sound like we are reading the same post.

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I was talking about the whole situation in general. Not about a specific point of any one choice made in the process.

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But I was talking about larrys answer to the post and you said I was wrong.Ill say it again Dont sound like he took the time to get the whole story before posting. The rules that lester posted said read the post before replying to me that means read all and if you have something to say say it and show the poster why he is wrong. dont just flap fingers. So again dont sound like we are reading thesame post.

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I didn't say you were wrong about that. I said you were wrong to take it personal or to nit pick about it. Mistakes sometimes are made and not all of then need be appologized for nor do they indicate any pattern of missbehaviour as you seem to imply. If the were deliberate they would not be "mistakes". And thats what your trying to imply here. And I disagree with that implication. I have been on here a very long time. And I have never seen any pattern of missbehaviour by these moderators. Nor have I seen a ton of mistakes that could not be explained by periodic assesment limitations placed upon a moderator. If you ever moderated a busy site you would recognize those as what they are. Quick review and judgements. Sometimes a bit off with the choices presented at the time.. but nothing is perfect. Not all scenarios can be predicted and not all of them that present themselves fit neatly into the rules. So Moderators have to peice together a ruling touching off the base of what they have to work with and depending on the posts within the thread at the time they notice it. Often there is some argument either way. But once a judgement is made there is not much sense in wasting time on it again. It still serves it's purpose as a thread. And as members, it makes little sense but to get on with the discussion rather than ***** about the action. To me it seems anyway.

BEECHBM69 · 07-14-2005, 10:57 AM

Where as your post was well thought out, well written and accurate, your efforts are wasted in this particular case. For whatever reason, some people cannot and will not be reasoned with.

Dan

kwazyca · 07-14-2005, 06:12 PM

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Where as your post was well thought out, well written and accurate, your efforts are wasted in this particular case. For whatever reason, some people cannot and will not be reasoned with.

Dan

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Oh so true in this case.

Super Duty John · 07-15-2005, 08:26 PM

This is borderline silly.

Do people [some] here realize how much time it actually takes to moderate this site?

All Moderators are volunteer and spend untold, countless hours reading topics that make either no sense, or don't interest them.
A post or topic is judged by relevance and or, by the usefulness to the site.
Yes, sometimes topics drift and, yes, I'm the first to jump on board into off topic world but, sometimes a complaint comes thought the "notify moderator" and action is required. Usually the moderator that reads e-mail first reviews the 'offending' post and makes a site management decision. Usually move the post and all it's replies or, edit the a post.

No grudges or favoritism are included in this process.

I'd like to be the first to stand up and commend Smokey for his huge, giant and thankless work here at this site. He's the voice of reason and I'm personally thankful he's volunteered his time here and, it's a better site because of him.

This topic is silly and has been answered many times before. Most reasonable members here understand this as just a housecleaning issue and, know it keeps the search feature current as far as topical.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

Rocket_Man · 07-15-2005, 09:27 PM

John,

Sometimes I think you guys should rant a little more. There are hundreds, if not thousands of us that often times remain unspoken, but still thank all of the Moderators for thier UNPAID time and effort. Smokey, Jason, Larry and John along with other individuals that put in countless hours to help me with my trucks... period. I can think of no other arena where a few individuals give so much of there time, and expect so little, well except the Military that is.

Anyhow Moderators, PLEASE do not let a few bad seeds ruin it all for the rest of us.

Thanks, guys for your time and help.

RM [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]

roofeditor · 07-16-2005, 07:21 AM

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This is borderline silly.

Do people [some] here realize how much time it actually takes to moderate this site?

All Moderators are volunteer and spend untold, countless hours reading topics that make either no sense, or don't interest them.
A post or topic is judged by relevance and or, by the usefulness to the site.

You mean to say you don't get paid the big bucks? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] OK I'll PM Jason and petition him to double your pay!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

bmw1200 · 07-16-2005, 10:15 AM

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This is borderline silly.

Do people [some] here realize how much time it actually takes to moderate this site?

All Moderators are volunteer and spend untold, countless hours reading topics that make either no sense, or don't interest them.
A post or topic is judged by relevance and or, by the usefulness to the site.
Yes, sometimes topics drift and, yes, I'm the first to jump on board into off topic world but, sometimes a complaint comes thought the "notify moderator" and action is required. Usually the moderator that reads e-mail first reviews the 'offending' post and makes a site management decision. Usually move the post and all it's replies or, edit the a post.

No grudges or favoritism are included in this process.

I'd like to be the first to stand up and commend Smokey for his huge, giant and thankless work here at this site. He's the voice of reason and I'm personally thankful he's volunteered his time here and, it's a better site because of him.

This topic is silly and has been answered many times before. Most reasonable members here understand this as just a housecleaning issue and, know it keeps the search feature current as far as topical.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

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If I had to do your job I would have taken a ballbat to my puter WELL before now, even with Roofie helpin [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Super Duty John · 07-16-2005, 10:30 AM

Herb, I'm guessing that's a vote of confidence.
It's pushed a few good men in the wrong direction I must say...

Macattak1 · 07-16-2005, 05:22 PM

Greetings,

What is this about you guys NOT being paid?!? Well, I can tell you that I am very upset! Where has all the money gone to that I have been sending in each month the the Moderators fund on TDS?

Really, you guys do a great job. No one should be asking for perfect. And we should be allowed to have off or down days where maybe we are not at the top of our game, either in posting or moderating the posts.

Remember, moderating is kind of like being a judge. Difficult job in that you have to remember how you have addressed simaler yet different issues in the past so that you maintain balance, objectivity, and an evenness through out the posts accross time.

Peace and Thanks

Larry M · 07-16-2005, 06:18 PM

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You mean to say you don't get paid the big bucks? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] OK I'll PM Jason and petition him to double your pay!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] ,,, thanks but that sort of like the root of a negative one ... twice nothing is still not very much [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Larry

roofeditor · 07-16-2005, 07:24 PM

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You mean to say you don't get paid the big bucks? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] OK I'll PM Jason and petition him to double your pay!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] ,,, thanks but that sort of like the root of a negative one ... twice nothing is still not very much [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Larry

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OK you drive a hard bargain, I give in, I'll lobby for your pay to be tripled. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] Seriously, a few bucks for you guys directed to a new computer or high speed service wouldn't be all that out of line? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]