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Old 05-05-2006, 08:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

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Ford, or I guess the IP's assigned to Ford, does visit the site quite regularly, as does Navistar. I know that at Nav there is a lot of debate, though, on how "accurate" a lot of the information presented here may be.

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I know they will never officially participate like Mark Kovalesky (sp) the Ford tranny engineer once did. Too bad in that they have a lot of real world info. Big corporate won't let them.
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

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Ford, or I guess the IP's assigned to Ford, does visit the site quite regularily, as does Navistar. I know that at Nav there is a lot of debate, though, on how "accurate" a lot of the information presented here may be.

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With thousands of employees it does not surprise me that Ford IP's show up here and on other sites as well. I guess what I was saying is that I don't think they have an "official" policy of monitoring these type of web-sites. Could be wrong. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

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Ford, or I guess the IP's assigned to Ford, does visit the site quite regularily, as does Navistar. I know that at Nav there is a lot of debate, though, on how "accurate" a lot of the information presented here may be.

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With thousands of employees it does not surprise me that Ford IP's show up here and on other sites as well. I guess what I was saying is that I don't think they have an "official" policy of monitoring these type of web-sites. Could be wrong. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

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When we did the first engine plant tour International said they had an Intern monitoring the site.

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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

Ford monitors my forum on a regular basis (they have talked about it), so I would assume that they monitor this one.
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Your local dealership is not owned by Ford. They are owned by private individuals. Ford and your dealership are not one in the same.

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Exactly, that's why theres a Dale Earnhart Chevrolet. You never know what kind of turn over there is in a shop. A service manager does paperwork mostly. If he relies on his tech's opinion, chances are he doesn't know.

To put it in perspective: Ford is a worldwide Corporation. They have more employees than there are members of this website. I'm sure they have spys like all Big Corps. Thats why they void your warranty for modifications.
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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

Yes, I know for a fact that they do. We occasionally receive communications from them when things are leaked in the forums.

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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

They must not pay close enough attention or they would iron out some of the problems and I'm not being sarcastic. I think they could learn something from doing some research on here.
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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

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Yes, I know for a fact that they do. We occasionally receive communications from them when things are leaked in the forums.

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Friendly communications or not so friendly?
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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

I imagine they are concerned if they have employees on here giving out internal private information, or sharing information that Ford is uncomfortable with. I can certainly understand their position in that regard. Many folks have posted here that they have gone to their service department and stated something like "I know about all of what is going on, I saw it on so and so website". If some website pops up time and time again, I imagine that it could make its way up to corporate. We all know that Ford has absolutely required that their employees not post certain information on websites.

Again, this is also understandable since information posted on a website is clearly discoverable in a legal action. I could see them doing a bit of "trolling" by using an intern, but I still don't believe they allocate any serious resource to scouring websites, unless they have a specific reason.

I do know of one legal case where an automobile manufacturer was sued by an individual for all sorts of things and during the discovery process the plaintiff was asked what websites he visited. Apparently the attorney representing the defendant was a pretty crafty guy and found where the plaintiff had posted exculpatory information on a particular website. The website was subpoenaed, the IP's were verified back to the plaintiff and the plaintiff dismissed his lawsuit. Lesson there folks, what you post here AIN'T PRIVATE, and you can be found. So it goes.
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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

Also saw sometime ago, another site where action by offended party was taken &amp; member was tracked down. Sure agree with u on that.

Jason (tks) answered Q &amp; didnt surprise me. TDS is a powerful site as are others. FWIW..Back in 2000 on another site FMC did acknowledge reading reports about those who paid for upgraded F150 radiator &amp; didnt get it. Unaware (for many) age n/a, tks to www. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

Always friendly. The only unfriendly one I ever received was the one about the domain name, and we were able to work that out amicably.

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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

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Always friendly. The only unfriendly one I ever received was the one about the domain name, and we were able to work that out amicably.

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Good, better to be friends rather than adversaries. Ford should realize that this site while it does have it's 6.0 ranters also has a lot of good positive Ford stuff!
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Always friendly. The only unfriendly one I ever received was the one about the domain name, and we were able to work that out amicably.

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Good, better to be friends rather than adversaries. Ford should realize that this site while it does have it's 6.0 ranters also has a lot of good positive Ford stuff!

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PS if you really want to get noticed try starting a site Fords-R-Us with the "R" back-wards like the Toys-R-Us company. You think you have a turbo? you will soon have a army of "turbo lawyers" on your butt in less than a week.
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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

YES! ford does monitor these and other sites!

I today recieved a polite letter from a lawyer working for ford, politly asking me to remove some content.

Jason Warned me about this content as he was asked to remove links to it from his site. I honestly forgot to remove it from my site. This was in regard to some Ford Release that contained alot of information about the new 6.4l motor.
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Re: Is there any solid proof that Ford watches this site?

Actually, given my position Working in the law industry, my guess is that the law firm actually is paying someone to go searching for this stuff. This way they can go to the client (FORD) and say: this month we found x-number of infringements, and its going to cost you x-$'s each to have them dealt with.

Its a win win for the law firm, as most won't ever fight it and its easy money.


Just my opinion,

The same law firm "Protects" several other automakers in similar "cases".

My letter likely cost ford 1000$ in research, and legal fee's.
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