I am just about sick of vendors plugging there products when it isn't even part of the post. Look at the 600,000 mile psd post. There is another amsoil post. Man I hope to never hear that name again. Then bob tries to cover it up be saying he's looking out for the environment, give me a break. Mark
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2000 F-350 Lariat SC PSD 4X4, Six speed, Camper and off packages, TT mirrors, Dark toreador red, Reese folding gooseneck hitch, born 5/00
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2000 F-350 Lariat SC PSD SRW 4X4, Six speed, Dark toreador red, Ball Bearing Turbo, Coolmist Stage 2, Banks Big Hoss 5 chip, Big Head Actuator and 3.5 down pipe with Dynomax exhaust, PacBrake Exhaust brake, AIS Air Filter, Jordan brake control, 20K Reese fifthwheel Hitch, Reese folding gooseneck hitch, Rhino lining born 5/00
1998 35' Challenger fifthwheel double slide with 3600 Onan MicroQuite Generator,Washer/Dryer.
Wife drives a Black 2003 Excursion 4x4 Limited, 6.0 PSD
Excuse me? The report may be false. I have trouble believing someone could have reached 630,000 miles on an SD yet.
However, Bob's follow-up post is a simple statement of fact. There is no question that the use of a full synthetic oil as he describes would have a substantially smaller environmental impact. That it happens to represent a product he sells doesn't matter to me one wit.
You'd be well advised to resist impugning his character and his motives. The evidence speaks for itself.
I spent a weekend last year camped beside the man and his family. He worked like a Trojan the entire time, and not once did I observe anything that even remotely resembled a hard sell or a false statement. He simple showed his products, and then provided installation service far beyond nearly any other vendor I've ever seen.
Bob, like Brent at DIS and I'm beginning to think Mark at WD, has a lot to teach the rest of the selling world about how to perform.
jp
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Jim Penny
white, auto, 4x4 ESOF, CC, dually, 4.10LS, ARE
otra sierra blanca
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Jim Penny
white, auto, 4x4 ESOF, CC, dually, 4.10LS, ARE
otra sierra blanca
It's off topic and I don't butt in when someone asks him about Amsoil. A vendor needs to wait until someone asks about his product before plugging it.
So what if it might not be true, what the heck does that have to do with amsoil.
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2000 F-350 Lariat SC PSD 4X4, Six speed, Camper and off packages, TT mirrors, Dark toreador red, Reese folding gooseneck hitch, born 5/00
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2000 F-350 Lariat SC PSD SRW 4X4, Six speed, Dark toreador red, Ball Bearing Turbo, Coolmist Stage 2, Banks Big Hoss 5 chip, Big Head Actuator and 3.5 down pipe with Dynomax exhaust, PacBrake Exhaust brake, AIS Air Filter, Jordan brake control, 20K Reese fifthwheel Hitch, Reese folding gooseneck hitch, Rhino lining born 5/00
1998 35' Challenger fifthwheel double slide with 3600 Onan MicroQuite Generator,Washer/Dryer.
Wife drives a Black 2003 Excursion 4x4 Limited, 6.0 PSD
Diesel Doc,
Sorry if you wer offended at what you thought was a blatant plug. To me, that was the first thing I thought of. Like I said, if is true that one did this huge mileage in such a short time, he dumped more oil in two to three years, than most do in a life time with the same trucks. Now compare that to a person with a car, he dumped more oil than a family in a lifetime with three cars! I did not take that environmental issue lightly.
Bob
Before there is an enviroment issue it should be determined if that oil he used was disposed of legally or not. If it was dumped properly how can you be liable for an eviromental issue, once dumped properly and legally its pretty much out of our hands
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The post origination was about vendors plugging products, and I, for one, appreciate any vendor willing to take the time to keep up with all of us (usually reading several forums) and targeting their products toward our concerns. Bob has been more than informative on several forums I read, and other BB's as well. His comments are never "you should" oriented - but informed facts based on experience. If we would ever ban knowledgeable people from expressing their opinions, we would suffer, not them. I stand behind Bob, I know he has helped me, and feel only right in throwing some business his way when I need something (not when I am "sold" something) because of the time he takes to educate us. Ditto for DIS (Brent) and WD (Mark).
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Thanks for reading, Dale Pics 1995 F350 - To much stuff to list,
more money spent than I want to admit.
Thanks guys. If you remember the first post in that thread mentioned the miles and that "he changed oil every 3 thousand miles". As an amsoil dealer, of course I thought of that issue and posted it since that is an oil change every three days.
I also didn't assume he dumped the oil on the ground anywhere, just that that wasa lot of oil disposal for someone to take care of.
Bob
The real value of the forumns is the variety of individual takes on a post. I for one would not have considered the environmental impact. But I should. And I now have. Thanks to all the members who bring up side issues I wouldn't have thought about otherwise.
Guys, isn't oil that's properly disposed of collected and recycled? How does that affect the environment? Can synthetic oil be recycled in the same way? What happens when old synthetic and dino oils are mixed in the same collection container -- does that have an effect on the recyclability of the oil?
I just realized that here I am driving a 7000 # vehicle alone, unloaded, consuming .1 gallons of fuel per mile for 41 miles/day, 365/year and destroying the environment with exhaust emissions. (when I change my oil, the spent oil is often used in electrical power plants) So if I am concerned about the environment, I need to get a little 2000# car (1.0L) and never change the oil, right?. Let's see who is really interested in the environment here.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by R Waller: guys, dont waste that oil. pour it on a stump and light it <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Or pour it on your gravel road in front of your farm!
Oh wait, they are not suppose to do taht anymore.....
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Y2K PSD SC 4x4 Shorty with too many upgrades to list
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2003.25 F350 SUPER CREWZER, 6.0, Lariat CC Shorty,4X4, Black with all the toys. Quad Capt seats,Chrome tow hooks. All Mod's by PRP Diesel Performance in Cincinnati, OH. More to come. I'm A Junky.