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Old 03-12-2008, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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are you freakin kidding me?

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/payments.php

I just found out about this, what a freakin joke...

you guys owe us money for all the knowledge we've added to this site over the years
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Old 03-12-2008, 06:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/payments.php

I just found out about this, what a freakin joke...

you guys owe us money for all the knowledge we've added to this site over the years
IMO heres the problem, which 90-99% site owners do. They start a website based on something they truly love or do then screw it all up with adsense ads, affiliate ads, membership fees, anything along the lines thats going to draw in more money for them. Which I dont blame the person/persons for doing so because its always nice to bring in some extra money! But at the same time it kills the website unless it has something of tangible value in return. Meaning discounts, free downloads, free prizes or drawings, thats how & only the best way to get any type of paying customer unless they have been supporting a site for many years.

I may not know diesels very well, but I do & know internet marketing & how it all works. If theres one I can tell you for sure, is that the site owners here are getting more than enough money to keep this site going & then some. Its ashame to start something then turn it into more just to try & make more money just to drive away people, supporters & site regulars..
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Couple thoughts for you.

1) Any paid membership option on this site is just that - OPTIONAL. You don't have to do it. Try to log on at Turbodieselregistry.com for the first time without a credit card (I just tried and didn't get very far). Or try to find a similar site for General Motors trucks at all.

2) Bandwidth costs money (you get extra fetures that use more bandwidth when you subscribe). Servers cost money. Nothing is free - oh, wait, THIS SITE is free unless you CHOOSE to avail yourself of the extra features in the OPTIONAL subscription memberships.

I really do not understand your complaint.

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Old 03-13-2008, 12:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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How's the Kool-ade tasting there Dave??
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Old 03-13-2008, 03:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Couple thoughts for you.

1) Any paid membership option on this site is just that - OPTIONAL. You don't have to do it. Try to log on at Turbodieselregistry.com for the first time without a credit card (I just tried and didn't get very far). Or try to find a similar site for General Motors trucks at all.

2) Bandwidth costs money (you get extra fetures that use more bandwidth when you subscribe). Servers cost money. Nothing is free - oh, wait, THIS SITE is free unless you CHOOSE to avail yourself of the extra features in the OPTIONAL subscription memberships.

I really do not understand your complaint.

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Well, if you think about it. There is a-lot of very kind & knowledgeable people that come to this site to support & give out a helping hand to those of us in need when really they dont have to, they do it because thats what they injoy!. I can see the frustration in any long term member thats been here awhile. I mean, you got folks here (from what Ive seen) with 2, 4, 8 thousand posts! Thats alot of input given out freely & then to see if you want to support our site pay $25 dollars, thats like saying you havent done nothing at all to those who have been here from day one! After all, if it wasnt for them, this site would really be stuck in limbo or shut down.

IMO, those folks should be given the upgraded features without paying. Then the people like myself (the new guy) would have to pay.

Just my thoughts, dont want to go any deeper with the hole bandwidth charge & server costs because thats a hole new story...

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bandwidth is uber cheap these days. please dont pull that card.
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[quote=Believer45;1532582]
"Or try to find a similar site for General Motors trucks at all."

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Old 03-13-2008, 11:52 AM   #8 (permalink)
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"Or try to find a similar site for General Motors trucks at all."

Diesel Place - Duramax Diesel Discussion Forums

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What he said. They have almost what ~70,000+ members, and that site is super easy to navigate, and they don't have ads everywhere like here. Also, if you follow diesel discussions on other forums, you would know that TDR is going down the crapper super fast. People don't want to pay for basic stuff.
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Also, if you follow diesel discussions on other forums, you would know that TDR is going down the crapper super fast.
Oh yea, I guess you'd recommend one site in particular where the "experts" wouldn't last in a auto or truck shop till noon, but yet they can do a 5 page thread about how dumb all bone-head (a direct quote) mechanics are. And then parts men----another 4 pages of how stupid they all are because out of the 1000's of parts they got to be on top of, one did'nt know off the top of his head what a CDR valve is on a beat-up 20 yr old Ford diesel. Of course the same experts can't even install a freeze plug, rear main seal, etc, without screwing the job up at least 3 times first. Not to mention none of them dare drive 70 miles from home without breaking down. And God help the poor sap on Ebay that uses the wrong terminology when selling a diesel engine part, that's good for 3+ pages of ridicule at least. Luckily most of them have been banned or split from "over here".
Fortunately, they don't tolerate that crap here, so in my book there's still a lot to be said for TDS, slow loading or not.
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LMJD: You hit the nail on the head. I can remember going into Johnnies in Garland TX. many moons ago. That man and his assistants could find a Ford part if you described it to them. That in no way is the case now. All of these parts stores try to carry the most used/most profitable parts. There is no way in Hades that a part guy could know all of the parts available today. How many brands are there now? 20/30, which would translate into about a bazillion parts. I have an idea. Start a Ford parts store. Start a Chevy parts store. Dang, I think thats the best idea I've ever had. Have a store with Ford parts and employees on one side and on the other have Chevy employees. I guarantee they would eventually learn the parts, if anything just through osmosis.

I know how you feel now on the idiot mechanic thing. I work for Southwest Airlines as a mechanic and I am so sick of hearing the crap spewed out by the media. They have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Talking heads. Read the prompter you moron. Sorry had to vent somewhere without reciprocity. Keep em flyin:

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Oh yea, I guess you'd recommend one site in particular where the "experts" wouldn't last in a auto or truck shop till noon, but yet they can do a 5 page thread about how dumb all bone-head (a direct quote) mechanics are. And then parts men----another 4 pages of how stupid they all are because out of the 1000's of parts they got to be on top of, one did'nt know off the top of his head what a CDR valve is on a beat-up 20 yr old Ford diesel. Of course the same experts can't even install a freeze plug, rear main seal, etc, without screwing the job up at least 3 times first. Not to mention none of them dare drive 70 miles from home without breaking down. And God help the poor sap on Ebay that uses the wrong terminology when selling a diesel engine part, that's good for 3+ pages of ridicule at least. Luckily most of them have been banned or split from "over here".
Fortunately, they don't tolerate that crap here, so in my book there's still a lot to be said for TDS, slow loading or not.
I take it your talking about other forums? Every question I've ever asked has been answered usually in less than 1 page, unless others discuss other options. I know of only 1 person who drags stuff out into 5-10 pages of garbage.
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I really don't understand where the concept of anyone being forced or even being put pressure on to contribute to this site has come from. As far as I can see, they are asking, not demanding and giving a few perks to those that do. I'm trying real hard to understand where the users of this site have come up with the unfairness of that.
If that contributer badge under your name means something to you then contribute. If it don't, then don't. At this time it is 100% voluntary. (Of your own free will or design; not forced or compelled)
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Yessir, that was my point, I was referring to ANOTHER forum, not TDS.
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All I have to say is the site is too slow. I feel like I am back on dial up again. I will be here alot less because of that... and there are way too many other powerstroke forums out there that are not this slow...

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I really don't understand where the concept of anyone being forced or even being put pressure on to contribute to this site has come from. As far as I can see, they are asking, not demanding and giving a few perks to those that do. I'm trying real hard to understand where the users of this site have come up with the unfairness of that.
If that contributer badge under your name means something to you then contribute. If it don't, then don't. At this time it is 100% voluntary. (Of your own free will or design; not forced or compelled)
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I signed up because it promised being able to turn of sidebar ,,and less advertizing ,,& I wanted the speed back ...

It did not make a difference, when I am here ,, I am always signed in...also ...if nothing got any worse ,, I was figuring i'd be around for many years ......

If they want more people to become supporters . they WILL need to fix a few things ....

& they should acknowledge there is a problem ,Instead of saying "I don't see it"...& look into what it will take to fix it...
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