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[BobR]

Originally Posted by mud flap

How about this. His administration has provided guidelines as to who might be a terrorist and alerted LEO's to keep an extra close watch on those who are pro-life, pro-2nd amnd, military vets... You know the type. Those that are "clinging to their guns and religion".

haha. I guess yours are the only Obama anti-terrorist policies that we're going to read about in this thread. After three requests for specifics, I guess it's official that Mr Gandy has none.

[drcampbell]

Originally Posted by AK_Gandy

Hint: It started with the Shah of Iran. ...

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[AK_Gandy]

haha. I guess yours are the only Obama anti-terrorist policies that we're going to read about in this thread. After three requests for specifics, I guess it's official that Mr Gandy has none.

Ha-ha yourself.

You haven't shown where Obama is any less committed to finding terrorists than Bush.

But, if you regurgitate enough blather and drink enough Kool-Aid...........it might actually taste good.

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[BobR]

Originally Posted by AK_Gandy

Ha-ha yourself.

You haven't shown where Obama is any less committed to finding terrorists than Bush.

I mentioned three specific actions that Obama has taken that will reduce our ability to gather intelligence and find terrorists:

1. mirandizing the enemy on the battlefield,
2. prosecuting our CIA officers and
3. weakening the tools we have successfully used to find terrorists in the USA (GOOD NEWS FOR TERRORISTS: DEMOCRATIC REVISIONS TO THE PATRIOT ACT at DickMorris.com)

Originally Posted by AK_Gandy

But, if you regurgitate enough blather and drink enough Kool-Aid...........it might actually taste good.

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Now it's your turn to step up to the plate and offer something concrete instead of diversions and insults.

[AK_Gandy]

Originally Posted by BobR

I mentioned three specific actions that Obama has taken that will reduce our ability to gather intelligence and find terrorists:

No you didn't.

You showed three things that you think will reduce our ability. And there are a whole lot of people who think you're dead wrong.

1. mirandizing the enemy on the battlefield,

1. Bush started it. (Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark)

2. It may actually be a benefit in prosecuting them.

EDITORIAL: Stop Mirandizing terrorists - Washington Times

The Justice Department says this is done "to preserve the quality of evidence obtained." The practice began during the Bush years when congressional challenges to the administration's detainee policy required building criminal cases using "clean" evidence that could stand up in U.S. courts.

2. prosecuting our CIA officers and

While I don't agree with going after anyone who was following orders from the POTUS, your example has nothing to do with making us "safer."

It is a much larger issue on how we interrogate instead of torture. Which by the way, torture is still.................. and should be..........illegal.

3. weakening the tools we have successfully used to find terrorists in the USA (GOOD NEWS FOR TERRORISTS: DEMOCRATIC REVISIONS TO THE PATRIOT ACT at DickMorris.com)

C'mon now, I thought you were smarter than that. All you are showing me is one persons opinion.

Show me a single bill/legislation that has been passed and how that has directly led to us being more 'unsafe.'

Not to say it shouldn't though as the Patriot Act has some real problems. What really cracks me up is you guys who whine and cry about 'Big Government'....except when it comes to spying on American citizens.

Get real.

Now it's your turn to step up to the plate and offer something concrete instead of diversions and insults.

I did.

Please read above.

Now it's your turn to actually show something factual.

Your statement is that Obama has made us less safe but, you only offer opinon's.........not a single fact.


Now if you want the ultimate ability to find terrorists, let's make Obama King and this country a dictatorship whereby he can do anything he wants without checks and balances.


Oh c'mon, you can breathe again and pick yourself up off of the floor.......I was just kidding.

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[AK_Gandy]

And one more thing.

At least this administration has put more emphasis on trying to catch the guy, and his followers, who were the ones actually responsible for 9-11.

Unlike Bush, whose main focus was Iraq.

Or don't you really care about finding the people who attacked us?

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