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I saw on the news last night that a dennison Tx Ambulance co is Joining a class action lawsuit against ford over the nation wide trouble with the 6.0 L diesel. Have you guys heard about this lawsuit? Maybe ford will straighten up and stop trying to get out of fixing their defective product. Flamesuit on
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Thats kind of what I was thinking, as many people who have had legitimate problems (not caused by mods) all those people should be able to participate in this suit. My estimation is ford rushed this truck into the market before sufficient testing was done or they calculated that a percentage of them would have problems but the ratio was worth the risk and here you go dump it on the unsuspecting public and let them be the guinne pigs. my $.02 But rest assured they new there would be problems.
DDiesel..I'm not surpirsed at law suit. Sometime ago one or more ambulance driver's reported here about problem's with their 6L's. IIRC..it made the new's, but when/where?
Keyword.."ambulance"..Obviously grabs one's attention rather quickly. Can't see how they can loose their case.JMO! Hopefully when settled, we'll know outcome.
% of bad 6L's we may never know. Report's here are only a small % of all the 6L's made since 03. Althou certainly a good indication, snowflake motor's for sure.
FWIW...mine STOCK..h.g. blew. Fixed 11/06. OEM head bolts used
We have a 2004 F250 that Ford repaired, for free, many times and stopped when we reached 100,000 miles. We still have the same problems, low turbo boost (turbo charger replaced once by Ford), EGR sensor (replaced by Ford 8 times). Now we are trying to trade it in and we have no value. I tried the lemon law and guess what, out of warrenty! If there is a class action suit we would join in a heartbeat.
I am not sure what transpired with FORD / International on the 6.0 but from what I gather is that the Ford application runs at a higher power level than the IH applications for that engine. Did this cause excessive problems in the area of headbolts stretching? Probably. Like I said - what went on - did IH know what the power level that the FORD controls would take it to??? Things like turbo vanes sticking, injector problems, and EGR cooler failures are an IH problem. Whos problems were the other things like all the calibration woes (the consumers' I guess!!!).
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did IH know what the power level that the FORD controls would take it to???
Ford told International what power level the engine had to make. International agreed to it and were the ones that made it happen! Ford did the driveability calibration, but International did the emissions and power calibration.
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My truck isn't an ambulance, but sign me up! I am so disappointed in my truck and pursuing buyback. Also, if the ambulance is on the Econoline chassis isn't the the power & torque less than the F series?
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international has had great service out of vt265. My 6.0 has been problem free in 55k miles. one thing that ford should do to help solve the problem.... bend over backwords on warranty. they should warrantee all engine issues to 200k miles. chevy did this on their first dmaxes with bad injectors. if you take care of the customer, you will win in the long run. ford makes so much money on the big trucks, you would think they would back them up on warantee repairs.
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Lighten up Mark....we're all not as perfect as you.
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Lighten up Mark....we're all not as perfect as you.
I understand that, but I'm trying to help all of you.
I was trying to point out, with a bit of what I considered humor, that most of these problems were caused from International, not from Ford. I was there and saw what was going on, all of you are assuming that since you don't hear about it that International has had great service from their version of the same screwed up engine.
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