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[action4478]

Somebody has to be out there killing women and kids so the rest of us are free to criticize them.

I simply thought it was sarcasm....(so the rest are free to criticize ) ..Its easy if they have not been there ...

[SmokeyWren]

Originally Posted by AK_Gandy

I can't help but wonder why you spent 12 years and then got out with only 8 more for a retirement.

I had two small children and a lovely wife, and my next asssignment was to be a 13-month unaccompanied tour in Korea. No thanx. Plus they offered me a job I wanted as a civilian. They even offered me a nice promotion if I would work out of the Pentagon, but again family came first so I took a lesser grade to be able to work out of Denver in a different office of HQ USAF. And my almost-12 years in uniform counted for federal civil service years of service, so it all worked out fine. And I didn't have to spend 13 months in Korea while my small kids did without Dad.

And BTW, both kids turned out wonderful.

[roofeditor]

I could have stayed in after VN but chose to to in the guard and still got to fly some cool planes. 20 or 25 in is not for everyone. My EX has about 24 in and is a Lt.Col/pilot but she will never leave, no family or other life to go to.

[checkthisout]

Originally Posted by AK_Gandy

If it so happens that women and children are fighting, then yes....they are the enemy.

Think about what you are saying.

Women and children are the enemy in a country that has no Navy or Military.

This is one of the many thousands of Red Flags telling us that we shouldn't be there.

[AK_Gandy]

Originally Posted by checkthisout

This is one of the many thousands of Red Flags telling us that we shouldn't be there.

Now that is a totally different issue.


And yes...............I agree with you.

[massbadass]

lets see 12 months in 2005 and now 15 months in 2008-2009, been an experience but after 6 years I am ready to move on to a 9-5. Reporters just try to create drama for ratings, I didnt see the interview but if that SSG had to make a split decision then so be it. BTW once you hit ground over here its usually 10-15hr days.

[checkthisout]

Originally Posted by massbadass

lets see 12 months in 2005 and now 15 months in 2008-2009, been an experience but after 6 years I am ready to move on to a 9-5. Reporters just try to create drama for ratings, I didnt see the interview but if that SSG had to make a split decision then so be it. BTW once you hit ground over here its usually 10-15hr days.

War is Brutal. Stuff happens. To focus on the incident is to obfuscate the fact that we shouldn't be there.

They could have been some jerk kids that wanted to shoot people, they could have been scared kids that feared for their lives, they could have been slightly mentally ill and became paranoid in the situation, they could have been highly experienced servicemen that had an error in judgement, they could have been highly experienced men that made a good judgement call in a situation that few can understand.

Who knows? One thing is certain, if we hadn't been there the incident would never have happened.

[mannytranny403]

Originally Posted by SmokeyWren

Freedom is not free. Somebody has to be out there killing women and kids so the rest of us are free to criticize them....... And continue to remember that freedom is not free. Somebody has to pay the tab.

Too bad Iraq was never a threat to our Freedom.

[SmokeyWren]

Originally Posted by mannytranny403

Too bad Iraq was never a threat to our Freedom.

That's your opinion. Your opinion is shared by most leftists, socialists, peacniks, and others who simply hate the President of the United States.

[checkthisout]

Originally Posted by SmokeyWren

That's your opinion. Your opinion is shared by lots of leftists, socialists and peacniks. But millions of folks, including me, don't agree with you.

It has nothing to do with whether they were a threat to our freedom, that's the wrong way to word it and creates poor dialogue from the get-go.

Were they or were they not a threat to our national security?

The answer is No. Sadaam was a "threat" to the security of Saudi Arabia, but we took care of that for the Saudis during the first Gulf War.

Now of course, there is a huge push to start a fight with Iran which is another "threat", not to the United States but Israel.

What criteria are we using to pick sides in these fights?

[RDG]

This thread, like so many others has gone far from the original topic so it is now closed.