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Old 07-24-2009, 07:25 AM   #16 (permalink)
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the gov't of Texas has done its part. If the people of Texas want to fix what is on AK_Gandy's list it is up to them not the gov't.
What if they decide that the best way to fix it is through the power of their state Government?

Do we start making Pace Picante in California or something?
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I learnt 2 things from your list.

1. I dunt need no edumucation to git a job in texus
3. My lakk of edumucation meens I ain't smart enuf to get health inshurince.
4. Ya don't need no dang hi way win you got a horz.
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:35 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm sorry that the concepts of freedom and limited government are beyond your comprehension.
Nah. The statements made in the article give no comparators for the reader to baseline from.

For instance, my state is heavily liberal and has the city with the highest level of education in the country yet we also have no state income tax, relatively heavy-handed government, several of the largest companies in the United States call my state home etc, so what gives? Clearly we are better than Texas and have a totally different mindset thus nullifying your hypothesis.

Perhaps the smartest person in Texas is T Boon Pickens with his Ultra-Right Wing Conservative Wind Turbines and Federally Subsidized Transmission Lines.
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It does seem to get a little old however listening to citizens of the second largest state who seem to tout themselves as better than citizens of all the other states.
I did not state, nor even imply that citizens of Texas are "better than" citizens of any other state.

I do, however, think that some ideas, and principles of government tend to produce better results than others.

In general:

More freedom is better than less freedom.

Lower taxes are better than higher taxes.

Living within one's means/budget and saving for a rainy day is better than spending everything you have (and more) in the good times and being left penniless when times get tough.

Paying your own debts is better than sticking them with your children and grandchildren.

And, in general, there is a tendency for companies, and individuals to move from states (and nations) with high taxes and regulation and relocate to states (and nations) with lower taxes and regulation.

I was hoping to spur some thought about this in light of the challenges our nation is currently facing with a declining economy and shrinking job base.

I do recognize that borrowing and spending can be used to create government funded jobs and perhaps help to stimulate some private sector jobs, but there are lots of examples where governments have used this stimulus strategy and stimulated their economy right into the dumper.

And outside of the "stimulus" package, there is precious little that we can point to being offered up in congress these days that will help the job situation.

We already have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. On top of that, we're looking at raising capital gains tax and taxes on small businesses, adding the crushing burden of "cap and trade", strengthening the unions through "card check" or "fast track", raising the minimum wage and forcing government mandated health insurance on employers.

I'll grant that all of the above will provide some benefits to some people, but all of the above will put downward pressure on job creation.

Checkthisout mocks the movement of jobs to Texas and states that it is not necessary to move jobs to third world countries when you can do the same thing by moving them to Texas. If high taxes and regulation are forcing companies to consider moving jobs to Mexico or overseas but they decide instead to move them to Texas, then I consider that a good thing. I guess that he would prefer that we cannot compete in a global labor market? That's where the items two paragraphs up are pushing us.
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I learnt 2 things from your list.

1. I dunt need no edumucation to git a job in texus
3. My lakk of edumucation meens I ain't smart enuf to get health inshurince.
4. Ya don't need no dang hi way win you got a horz.
How's your spanish? Your english is certainly broken enough to meet the above criteria!

Discount the immigrants and I'll be suprised if Texas doesn't fair better than it currently does.
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Nah. The statements made in the article give no comparators for the reader to baseline from.

For instance, my state is heavily liberal and has the city with the highest level of education in the country yet we also have no state income tax, relatively heavy-handed government, several of the largest companies in the United States call my state home etc, so what gives? Clearly we are better than Texas and have a totally different mindset thus nullifying your hypothesis.

Perhaps the smartest person in Texas is T Boon Pickens with his Ultra-Right Wing Conservative Wind Turbines and Federally Subsidized Transmission Lines.
Clearly not familiar with Texas! What state do you hail from sir?
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Top ten states for Federal defense spending, FY 2006 data:
California	$42,900,000,000
Virginia	$40,700,000,000
Texas		$35,100,000,000
Maryland	$21,100,000,000
Dist. Columbia	$14,000,000,000
Florida		$13,600,000,000
Massachusetts	$10,800,000,000
Missouri	$10,700,000,000
New York	$10,700,000,000
Arizona		$10,400,000,000
Pennsylvania	$10,000,000,000
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Top ten states for Federal defense spending, FY 2006 data:
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California    $42,900,000,000
Virginia    $40,700,000,000
Texas        $35,100,000,000
Maryland    $21,100,000,000
Dist. Columbia    $14,000,000,000
Florida        $13,600,000,000
Massachusetts    $10,800,000,000
Missouri    $10,700,000,000
New York    $10,700,000,000
Arizona        $10,400,000,000
Pennsylvania    $10,000,000,000
What is your point?

If it's that federal defense spending is propping up Texas, then what is up with California?

Or is your point that defense spending is bad? It can be wasteful but it is one of of a very short list of things the federal government is specifically tasked to fund. Please refer to The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
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Top ten states for Federal defense spending, FY 2006 data:
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California    $42,900,000,000
Virginia    $40,700,000,000
Texas        $35,100,000,000
Maryland    $21,100,000,000
Dist. Columbia    $14,000,000,000
Florida        $13,600,000,000
Massachusetts    $10,800,000,000
Missouri    $10,700,000,000
New York    $10,700,000,000
Arizona        $10,400,000,000
Pennsylvania    $10,000,000,000
If the list were "by capita," I'll bet Alaska would be #1.

Do they have a per capita statistic wherever you found this?

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I fail to see the point of the original post when it uses terms such as "relatively" in place of actual numbers in an attempt to make it's point. (whatever it was).
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Clearly not familiar with Texas! What state do you hail from sir?

I happen to like Texas but I bet the person that wrote the article isn't (sorry) aint even a real Texan.
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Are we currently united?

It doesn't seem so.

What can we unite around?
There should only be one thing to be united around: individual freedom.
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I happen to like Texas but I bet the person that wrote the article isn't (sorry) aint even a real Texan.
What is a "real Texan"?

And what state do you hail from?
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What is a "real Texan"?

And what state do you hail from?
The answer to both your questions is can be found in your heart.
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The answer to both your questions is can be found in your heart.
LOL! Yeah, you don't know.
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