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Can any of you folks who think this health care idea is so good, tell me who is going to underwrite the insurance policies? If it is going to be us the taxpayer, then I want more say in the process. If it is farmed out to BIG BUSINESS then it is their win or loss. I don't think there is much thought being given to how insurance works and is financed.
Don't go to Medicaid or Medicare because I know the taxpayer funds it. It is the insurance you currently have, like Blue Cross, etc. that I am referring to.
Last edited by grassfarmer; 09-18-2009 at 09:06 PM.
I guess that means you will refuse, on philosophical grounds, Medicare and Medicaid when you're eligible?
mud is right.
AK, you do not have a right to health care. Rights are not a matter of philosophy, they are matter of law. You may desire affordable health care, but that does not make it a right.
AK_Gandy - Please inform us as to the law that grants US citizens a "right to affordable health care".
Government 101. US History 101. Offered at community colleges throughout the USA.
AK, you do not have a right to health care. Rights are not a matter of philosophy, they are matter of law. You may desire affordable health care, but that does not make it a right.
I guess I'm amazed at the lack of understanding that a "law" doesn't just appear and it has to be passed by our"LAWMAKERS" (yeah.......that's what they really call them ) first.
Do you think this whole issue is about whether or not a law alreadys exists?
Sheeesh!!
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AK_Gandy - Please inform us as to the law that grants US citizens a "right to affordable health care".
Stick around.
It will be a law soon.
Just like the "right" to Medicare didn't exist until the last century.
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Government 101. US History 101. Offered at community colleges throughout the USA.
Since you seem to be at least aware that history books exist, I suggest you actually read one.
Obama is not proposing a Medicaid/Medicare type system for all.
Obama is proposing giving tax breaks and subsidies to big insurance companie so they can insure you and make some profit.
The solution to the shortage of doctors is simple. Make Banking less profitable so that good minds and good educational dollars stop going to waste training derivatives traders.
Obama's plan isn't government health care, if it was, it would be able to pass on it's own merits with only a few senseless holdouts making a protest vote.
Last edited by checkthisout; 09-19-2009 at 05:55 PM.
PLEASE SIR! not wisdom from the senator who waits for the mother ship. Take the profits from private business to finance government? Taxes and profits are two different things. Profits are earned and keep private business in business. Taxes are taken by the government, not earned by the government.
Now as for Medicare and Medicaid. I agree the concept is good, but as you will admit it has led to billions of dollars in waste and fraud. Government has promised to fix this but that has not happened and probably will not happen. Just like Social Security. A good concept plagued by mismanagement,waste and fraud. It's the same old government story....greed, greased palms, stupid politicians, and misguided bleeding hearts. That's no way to run a railroad.
PLEASE SIR! not wisdom from the senator who waits for the mother ship. Take the profits from private business to finance government? Taxes and profits are two different things. Profits are earned and keep private business in business. Taxes are taken by the government, not earned by the government.
Now as for Medicare and Medicaid. I agree the concept is good, but as you will admit it has led to billions of dollars in waste and fraud. Government has promised to fix this but that has not happened and probably will not happen. Just like Social Security. A good concept plagued by mismanagement,waste and fraud. It's the same old government story....greed, greased palms, stupid politicians, and misguided bleeding hearts. That's no way to run a railroad.
Why do you refer to the government as some sort of autonomous unit as if it's not made up of individuals whom we have control over?
A little bit of involvement instead of talk from the people would lead to big changes.
If an insurance company posts a profit through denial of care or underpayment to doctors is that not akin to the little bit of fraud in the Medicare/Medicaid system (which is FYI, is also present in the regular insurance system as well?
Last edited by checkthisout; 09-19-2009 at 06:01 PM.
Taxes are taken by the government, not earned by the government.
So that they can provide you with roads, security and all of those other things people would be whining about not having if it was taken away.
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Now as for Medicare and Medicaid. I agree the concept is good, but as you will admit it has led to billions of dollars in waste and fraud. Government has promised to fix this but that has not happened and probably will not happen. Just like Social Security. A good concept plagued by mismanagement,waste and fraud. It's the same old government story....greed, greased palms, stupid politicians, and misguided bleeding hearts. That's no way to run a railroad.
So you're going to forego the Socialist program of Medicare/Medicaid also?
That's great!
That just means there will be more for the rest of us.
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