I emailed him and said :
"do you honestly expect someone to pay $1200 for someting they havent even seen, from a person that is not known for making this type of product? It would be different if you were a known suspension product manufacturer but you're not. You've had those for sale for 6 months or more for that reason. I am interested but to be honest, I wouldnt purchase without being able to see what you're wanting me to send $1200 for. Let me know if we can work something out because I definitely like the concept."
He responded and said :
"Yes, we wouldn’t want you to take a chance with a ebay seller with 100% feedback rating, it’s very risky…..
We have sent you pictures of the kit installed, the auction has the pictures of the springs, and we’re not going send you pictures of the front brackets, simply because we know you want to copy them….
BTW, we’ve sold 53 completely new kits and 9 of the kits with Ford Test Truck springs, this is the last set of those we have, we simply re-run the auction every time we sell a set, so the auction your seeing is NOT for the same set for the last 6 months…
So please – DO NOT BUY THEM!!
Funny how he sais they have sold 62 sets, but they dont have any that show up as complete auctions LOL
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2005 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 PMF 08 Rear Leaf Spring Conversion
20" Harley Wheels w/275/65/20 Nitto Terra Grapplers
SCT X3 w/GearHead Tunes
Amp Research Steps, Bed Rug, Hellwig Rear Swaybar
This is a big waste of time...B code SD springs will ride great. Higher then Icons
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Thanks for your input caryt, but I'm looking for other options. If it's a waste of time, don't respond. And definitely don't tie my thread up by telling me it's a waste of time.
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2005 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 PMF 08 Rear Leaf Spring Conversion
20" Harley Wheels w/275/65/20 Nitto Terra Grapplers
SCT X3 w/GearHead Tunes
Amp Research Steps, Bed Rug, Hellwig Rear Swaybar
"Yes, we wouldn’t want you to take a chance with a ebay seller with 100% feedback rating, it’s very risky…..
We have sent you pictures of the kit installed, the auction has the pictures of the springs, and we’re not going send you pictures of the front brackets, simply because we know you want to copy them….
BTW, we’ve sold 53 completely new kits and 9 of the kits with Ford Test Truck springs, this is the last set of those we have, we simply re-run the auction every time we sell a set, so the auction your seeing is NOT for the same set for the last 6 months…
So please – DO NOT BUY THEM!!
Doesnt that sound like he is saying that he has sold them on EBAY? I emailed him and asked if he had sold all of those, and kept rerunning the auction, why didnt it show up in his completed auctions? He said:
The new kits were not sold through ebay………
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2005 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 PMF 08 Rear Leaf Spring Conversion
20" Harley Wheels w/275/65/20 Nitto Terra Grapplers
SCT X3 w/GearHead Tunes
Amp Research Steps, Bed Rug, Hellwig Rear Swaybar
the dude is a dumb A** lets make a set and take pictures and send it to him lol then we could make our own company and then post pics of our product and sell at a reasonable price and sell em like hot cakes.
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early 99 f-250 315/75/16 3.5 inch fabtech shackle lift,intake,4" exhaust 5" single stacked,DIY t/c lock, billet t/c and shift kit on a fresh rebuild,beans tunes ,4 hella lights, 05 head light, 05 chrome grill,red wire pluged, HID lights 200k
i just sent him this....if he would be smart and show some details he could make some money......
How about show a pic of the the underside or a pic during installation....your not super lift, icon, pro comp, skyjacker, or any other company that has a reputation. your a guy trying to pull off a fast one and make some cash but you wont make much if any if you don't back your design up. this is a new idea in a way we all know its not complicated if you understand engineering and understand how suspension works along with metal fab skills. but no one even knows you so how would i know you did the proper steps to have this done correct? Im not going to believe your words over the internet. I would believe more if there was some detailed pics showing the angles of the suspension and to what section of the frame you move the shackle too, it would be nice if you also showed specs on a stock truck, show how it works compared to a stock, show how you know it wont fail, and this is a vital part of the truck that if done wrong can cause serious injury or death to a person while driving the vehicle. To sell you must show your work not take a pic of a section of 4" of spring and say that's all you get. you don't show any info on u bolts, angles or anything. all you can say is it rides better. this is a business market go back to school and get a education on business communication, and business operation. Im not interested in copying your kit. Im interested in fixing my truck. but i will never buy a suspension kit that requires new shackles/moving shackles forward without pictures of the product, and details backing up what you are selling. to be honest i could design my own shackle but really don't care too. You need to provide more info. you might actually sell a set then if you showed what the hell you are doin. Good luck sellin them i would never perchase until i got the info needed to give me a peace of mind on what im buying, and knowing it will actually hold over time. YOUR WORDS are NOT enough.
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early 99 f-250 315/75/16 3.5 inch fabtech shackle lift,intake,4" exhaust 5" single stacked,DIY t/c lock, billet t/c and shift kit on a fresh rebuild,beans tunes ,4 hella lights, 05 head light, 05 chrome grill,red wire pluged, HID lights 200k
If I had the fab skills I'd be all over it. I no equipment or knowledge to make anything like that. I'm pretty sure you could use a factory spring hanger. Could probably even use a 99-07 hanger, the leafs are the same width.
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2005 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 PMF 08 Rear Leaf Spring Conversion
20" Harley Wheels w/275/65/20 Nitto Terra Grapplers
SCT X3 w/GearHead Tunes
Amp Research Steps, Bed Rug, Hellwig Rear Swaybar
If he is listing them on EBAY and Selling them privately, not threw EBAY, then someone should report him to EBAY and his listing and selling privileges will be terminated.
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Early 99 CC LB 2WD Manual 6....Stock 228k (11/09) and running strong, only repairs Clutch, water pump, alternator. K&N FIPK since 36k and loving it!
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basically saying move the mount forward 8" he said axle angle wouldn't change. said simply as drilling old mount out and then drill new holes for the other
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early 99 f-250 315/75/16 3.5 inch fabtech shackle lift,intake,4" exhaust 5" single stacked,DIY t/c lock, billet t/c and shift kit on a fresh rebuild,beans tunes ,4 hella lights, 05 head light, 05 chrome grill,red wire pluged, HID lights 200k
Got the pictures, (2), one of the truck from the side, and one of the spring where it's overload hits the bump stop. Nothing of the brackets, same story as the other poster. "We don't give pictures out because they would be too easy to copy,," So gee, that tells me it's over priced if there is not that much to it. They must be kinda greedy huh?
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