I am looking at a 2000 Limited Edition Excursion (white on tan). It is two wheel drive and has the back up sensors, running boards, a dvd system with two T.V.'s mounted in back of the front captains chairs, and a small amp for the stereo. It has the powerstroke engine with 117,350 miles. Is this a good deal at $18,500.00?
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2000 F-350 4x4 CC srw - Tranny/Converter tricked, SCM, Walker BTM, K&N, front end picked up 2"
2000 Excursion Limited 4x2 - SCM, Banks muffler, K&N, nice stereo (400w for the wife), TV's/DVD (for the little ones)
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2000 Excursion Ltd 2WD, Build Date 9/30/99, Oxford White, Medium Parchment Leather, 6 disk CD Changer, 3.73 LS, Magnum Deflecta-Shield, Vent Shades Ford Rear Air Deflector, AC Mod, Home Made Tymar, More to come sooner or later!
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I'd have to second the recommendation to check edmunds.com. I paid about what they recommended. I didn't check, but I assume it's going to be less than the number your looking at.
Last fall I got a 2000 Limited 4x4 7.3 X black with tan with 104K miles for $18,999. It had every option but the back up sensors and dvd player. The truck did have brand new Good years though. I replaced the tow mirrors with new ones off of ebay due to cracking and the front gill was a little damaged. The parts cost me under $200 shipped.
So far at 116K miles the CPS has been replaced, $90 at International.
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99(4/99)F350 PSD 4X4 crew cab long bed dually lariat isspro triple pod air bags with compressor
99(6/99)F250 PSD 4X4 X-cab short bed xlt 5in str8 piped air bags autometer ultra light triple pod junk yard pcm running 22 psi 250k miles bought 8/15/01 w/40k miles first diesel
00(12/99)Excursion PSD 4X4 limited
65 Mustang 289 V8 4brl 69 GTO 400 4spd 99 Neon R/T
04 and 09 PJ 15k dump trailer 04 H&H 9K tilt bed 98 Haulmark 7x14 enclosed
What is the CPS? This may be a really dumb question, but I've heard many people replacing this with higher miles. I just bought my 2000 X at 78,000 miles and now have almost 85,000 miles on it with no problems...is this something I need to watch out for [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]!
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2000 X ltd.,white/parchment 4X4 loaded,285/75/16 BFG's,dvd,converted 06 oem grill,Xtint,New style clear headlights & clear corners w/ Plasma white bulbs,Fumoto,cut front bumps,Bilstein's,ass'd X badges & ass'd door PSD badges,ISSPRO EV gauges,clear cab lights, Wet Okole front seat covers, Weathertech visors,Pro-Comp steer stab.,Tymar Perf.intake, AIH removal mod w/boost tap,muffler delete turbo back Magnaflow 4" SS exhaust,WW,ATS Housing,Turbomaster controller,CCV Bypass,Edge Evolution Programmer(Extreme every day tow heavy in 80HP Mode),Power Slot rotors all around w/Hawk LTS pads,Duralast Gold Batteries, etc.); BTS tranny & new programming if oem ever dies.
In betweeen boats so now I have a custom 2003 HD Heritage Softtail I Love! Will return to boating when sons get older at 2mm LOTO, MO! Ride with friends now...Harley much cheaper on fuel! http://community.webshots.com/user/jweiler27
Work hard, play hard; strive to be the best at whatever you are doing!
Camshaft Position Sensor, goes in the front of the motor up towards the middle. Easy to replace takes about 15 minutes. You replace it from under the truck. You unplug a connector and take out one bolt using a small extension.
Ford gets around $180 for the part while International gets $90.
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99(4/99)F350 PSD 4X4 crew cab long bed dually lariat isspro triple pod air bags with compressor
99(6/99)F250 PSD 4X4 X-cab short bed xlt 5in str8 piped air bags autometer ultra light triple pod junk yard pcm running 22 psi 250k miles bought 8/15/01 w/40k miles first diesel
00(12/99)Excursion PSD 4X4 limited
65 Mustang 289 V8 4brl 69 GTO 400 4spd 99 Neon R/T
04 and 09 PJ 15k dump trailer 04 H&H 9K tilt bed 98 Haulmark 7x14 enclosed
IF using KBB, Make sure you check private party and trade-in values... Those can be off by several thousand dollars!
Around here, if you paid private seller prices you paid too much, IMHO. And btw, I've had a hard time getting dealers to give me close to trade-in values. More like about 10% lower than KBB. Hope this helps.
These are just my personal experiences...
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Previous Owner of a 2004 Diesel Excursion and 2005 Diesel F250.
You will find that Edmunds is a good source for determining your purchase price, but most (not all) banks will use NADA for financing. Since there are actually 3 transactions going on, use them appropriately. Good luck.
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2000 Excursion Ltd 2WD, Build Date 9/30/99, Oxford White, Medium Parchment Leather, 6 disk CD Changer, 3.73 LS, Magnum Deflecta-Shield, Vent Shades Ford Rear Air Deflector, AC Mod, Home Made Tymar, More to come sooner or later!
Let us put an end, once and for all, to this discussion of what a good man should be - and be one. -Marcus Aurelius-
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it, and then misapplying the wrong remedies. -Groucho Marx-
Lastly, how will I know if my CPS goes out? Will the X not start?
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2000 X ltd.,white/parchment 4X4 loaded,285/75/16 BFG's,dvd,converted 06 oem grill,Xtint,New style clear headlights & clear corners w/ Plasma white bulbs,Fumoto,cut front bumps,Bilstein's,ass'd X badges & ass'd door PSD badges,ISSPRO EV gauges,clear cab lights, Wet Okole front seat covers, Weathertech visors,Pro-Comp steer stab.,Tymar Perf.intake, AIH removal mod w/boost tap,muffler delete turbo back Magnaflow 4" SS exhaust,WW,ATS Housing,Turbomaster controller,CCV Bypass,Edge Evolution Programmer(Extreme every day tow heavy in 80HP Mode),Power Slot rotors all around w/Hawk LTS pads,Duralast Gold Batteries, etc.); BTS tranny & new programming if oem ever dies.
In betweeen boats so now I have a custom 2003 HD Heritage Softtail I Love! Will return to boating when sons get older at 2mm LOTO, MO! Ride with friends now...Harley much cheaper on fuel! http://community.webshots.com/user/jweiler27
Work hard, play hard; strive to be the best at whatever you are doing!
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Lastly, how will I know if my CPS goes out? Will the X not start?
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Your X will completely die. Ask me how I know! You will not be able to start your X.
Mine died while driving along minding my own business right in the middle of the road. Coasted over to the shoulder as far as I could make it, tried starting...nothing. Had it towed to the Ford dealer. Naturally this happened on the weekend and had to wait until Monday for them to look at it.
Monday rolled around, they got in, and it started right up. You know Ford, since the problem is not evident, they have no way of troubleshooting, so they said "drive it home and call us back if it happens again." 10 minutes later, I was Found On Road Dead again! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Had it towed back a second time, this time they could not get it to start and proceeded to troubleshoot. Several hours later, they found out it was the Cam Position Sensor and replaced it. $100 warranty deductible.
This happened around 80,000 miles on my '00 X. Since it seems like these things are so destined for this problem, you would be smart to purchase the part now and be prepared to replace it for when it fails. It seems to fail at the most inconvenient time.
Some people NEVER have their CPS go out, others have it happen several times. But as mentioned, there is little or no warning. Sometimes the engine runs rough like it is dieseling (no pun intended), others it just dies.
I am about to take a long road trip, and plan on buying one at an International dealer and keeping it and a wrench packed away in case of emergency. I'd rather spend 20 minutes getting dirty under the truck than 3 hours getting towed, waiting a day or two for a spare part, etc.
As for buying a PSD Excursion, this should not be on your "worry" list. By the way, those DVD systems are like $800 so factor in several hundred on the value. Check the quality of the tires as a new set will run you $800. If you could pick that ride up for $15,000...then you will have stolen it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
When the CPS died on the X it first started to stall when going to a stop then it wouldn't start. It was towed thanks to triple A plus and then started and drove into the garage to replace the sensor. Rarely ever does the Check Engine light come on when the CPS fails. Most Ford dealerships should know to first check the sensor when there's failure.
Knock on wood, 159K+ miles on the 99 Powerstroke with original CPS!
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99(4/99)F350 PSD 4X4 crew cab long bed dually lariat isspro triple pod air bags with compressor
99(6/99)F250 PSD 4X4 X-cab short bed xlt 5in str8 piped air bags autometer ultra light triple pod junk yard pcm running 22 psi 250k miles bought 8/15/01 w/40k miles first diesel
00(12/99)Excursion PSD 4X4 limited
65 Mustang 289 V8 4brl 69 GTO 400 4spd 99 Neon R/T
04 and 09 PJ 15k dump trailer 04 H&H 9K tilt bed 98 Haulmark 7x14 enclosed
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