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Old 07-01-2008, 08:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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And here I am. Never owned a Ford or a Diesel, but toying with the idea of dumping my '99 Burb 454 2500 (if I can figure out how). and finding a ('00-'03) 7.3 PSD. Use it for towing only, 7300# trailer, 6000-10000 miles a year. I don't even know what to look for..other that lowest mileage, of course. I'd like to go from 30 mph to 45-50 mph when topping the 15 mile 8% grade out my back door. Don't mention fuel costs...I don't care 'cause I can't change it.....and I'm not going to stop trailering. Any sage advice will be appreciated as well as sources to track down available rigs as mentioned above.
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Old 07-02-2008, 04:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I normally don't jump on my rant wagon (I'm sure admin will pull this thing) but here goes...
Fuel prices are not going to decrease. There's simply too much global demand and not enough production/reserves - even if we opened up the North Slope/Anwar/Gulf of Mexico and found a couple of as-of-yet undiscovered megafields. China alone has the potential to dwarf U.S. consumption in the next ten years, to say nothing of India.
When was the last time fuel prices "corrected" downward to any significant degree? I can remember .80c diesel and I'm sure many can remember it lower still - ever since, the price has creeped up - be it a war, hurricane, refinery explosion or whatever the excuse for prices going up they never come back down to what they were. I believe the majority of diesel consumption in the U.S. is on the commercial side and they are going to pass the cost along to the consumer...there is no incentive for the oil barons to lower the price on D.
The fundamental U.S. design is centered around the personal vehicle...for the most part there are few local schools, grocers, etc within walking distance...unless you live in a congested metropolital area. We bought the X because we need the passenger /carrying / towing capacity - if you need one you need one and the only solution I can see to $$$ is to brew your own bioD or buy less Chinese junk. Trading a paid off X for a rice burner will mean getting a pittance for your X and paying premium for the mpg...I'm not sure you wouldn't get more by parting one out in this economic climate.
My prediction: "Grab Iron" boys and girls cause we headed for a slide. How many folks are upside down right now on their 0% down over 60-72 mth gas guzzler? I look around my area and I can't believe everyone bought their Tahoes and Burbs etc for cash...they're everywhere...fuel budgets have doubled in the last 24 months, ARMs are coming due, and discretionary spending on our "service economy" is waaay down...unemployment is about to take a drastic jump. (I won't get into retirement losses or municipal government budget shortfalls due to fuel prices...that has its own special "rant"). One look at the interest manipulations since the FED started slicing the rates should be a wake up call. The FED is dropping and we're not seeing a concominant drop from the lenders (be it credit cards or mortgages) because they're recouping their speculative losses over the last year.
What really gets me riled is here in Texas contracts are going out to foreign companies to build highways and adding lanes instead of investment in comprehensive local/regional rail/bus/tram service and bike lanes Government investment in transportation infrastructure keeps our tax dollars here at home, employing Americans, for the benefit of Americans.
The spousal unit has just pulled out her .45 so I'd better get off this thing...my apologies...

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YOU ARE~WRONG 20 Fathoms..
The ""ONLY"" reason oil, gold and commodities are going up is because the $$ DOLLAR $$ is going down....The $$$ DOLLAR $$$ is going down, because interest rates are to low, and the Fed/ US Gov't is printing money....The Fed...""ONLY"" controls short term interest rates....when the bond market FINALLY rebels, and longterm interest rates break higher, and bond market collapses/ stock market with it / along with houses....
THEN YOU'LL SEE GAS/DIESEL PRICES COLLAPSE WITH IT.......
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ENOUGH OIL/GAS/ DIESEL....IT JUST WON'T ALWAYS BE CHEAP
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To make things perfectly clear...here is a quote from Comstock Partners....

""""the destruction of demand will break the back of the commodity bull market including energy.""""

Diesel prices """WILL""" be coming down........."BUT""" you won't like what you get with it!!!!
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Well I sure hope diesel comes down to at least gas prices. $150 every three days is getting old.

Gonna hang on to all three. Actually would like to find a nice 2000 E350 7.3.

Took the X up to the cabin last weekend and got 18.5 mpg. Not bad for a 8K lb suv. That is better than most minivans.
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Well, I'm still looking....doing a lot of research. Mainly trying to get clear of my Suburban. I hear from a lot of folks in dieselland that I might be wise to steer clear of the 6.0 and that the trannys later than '00 could be problematic. My budget won't cover anything much newer than an '03. So I'm looking at '00 - '03 at the moment, If someone has a better idea, please let me know. Part of the problem with the '00 is that my Credit Union jumps the APR on an 8 yr old + rig from 5.59 to 9.5. That's the only place I've checked, some institutions may be lower.
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Ramblemutt:.....My suggestion, which you didn't ask for, would be....
""""IF YOU CAN'T PAY CASH FOR IT.....DON'T BUY IT"""""
You do """NOT"" want to be taking on any debt of any kind the way I see the economic landscape....
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