My truck has 69,000 miles and my BFG's finally needed replacing. Since my truck had to be pulled up a snow covered hill by a Chevy 3/4 ton pickup (after a 1/2 ton Suburban on passenger tires passed by me with no problems) I decided it was time. The BFG's lasted quite a while, but they were not great tires....wet traction was marginal and off road (at least recently) they were terrible. I did a search here and decided to go with Bridgestone Dueler Revo's in the 285/75/16 size. I hope you guys were right about how great these tires are....they were $901 out the door [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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2003 Excursion Limited 6.0 PSD, Mineral Grey Metalic, 3.73 Ltd Slip, 2nd Row Buckets, Tele PWR TT Mirrors, DVD
That is a little high, The first time I bought them they were not bad.
When I bought my second set a little over ayear ago I asked what happened, they said they are great tires and we have some out there now and the price has gone way up.
I think I got out the door for about 800 even but they wanted close to 880 as I recall. This is a dealer I use often.
I think you will like them, As far as I know they are the best on Ice and snow on the X.
Bruce
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2005 X PSD Limited Mineral Grey, 4X4 Has Second row bench then Every other factory option available. Under Construction
4x2 Lift Gate Lifts,
Tekonsha Prodigy
Ford 30MM Rear Bar
BridgeStone 285/75-16AT(D range) Revos, Now have a winter and summer set each with a set of wheels!
V Code LF, U Code RF Modified Fs in the rear
Catch All Linners
750 W Inverter
Magnaflow XL System W/ 3.5 DP OE Cat spliced in at 4" inlet and 3-3/4" outlet.
ART Rotors, Performance Friction Pads, Front & Rear
Rancho RSXs on Front and 9000s set at 2 on rear
06 Chrome Package Grill,bumpers and hooks. After an encounter with a Honda, (She got the ticket) 2005 Ex and Specs and Pictures of 2002 X
There was only one other shop close to me that could order them. It would have saved me another $40, but I wanted to get them on this morning.....you guys know how it is. Tirerack.com had them for $168, but the shipping and installation charges would have jacked the price up another $150. I like the way the 285's look, I just hope they are as stable as the 265's while towing.
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2003 Excursion Limited 6.0 PSD, Mineral Grey Metalic, 3.73 Ltd Slip, 2nd Row Buckets, Tele PWR TT Mirrors, DVD
I have towed heavy with both tires one the X I think tires are a few items down the list when it comes to stable towing. Just run the pressure on up when you are towing.
Bruce
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2005 X PSD Limited Mineral Grey, 4X4 Has Second row bench then Every other factory option available. Under Construction
4x2 Lift Gate Lifts,
Tekonsha Prodigy
Ford 30MM Rear Bar
BridgeStone 285/75-16AT(D range) Revos, Now have a winter and summer set each with a set of wheels!
V Code LF, U Code RF Modified Fs in the rear
Catch All Linners
750 W Inverter
Magnaflow XL System W/ 3.5 DP OE Cat spliced in at 4" inlet and 3-3/4" outlet.
ART Rotors, Performance Friction Pads, Front & Rear
Rancho RSXs on Front and 9000s set at 2 on rear
06 Chrome Package Grill,bumpers and hooks. After an encounter with a Honda, (She got the ticket) 2005 Ex and Specs and Pictures of 2002 X
I tow with them too. Not sure I'd call it heavy, but about 7500#. Like Bruce said, just air them up as you should, and you're good to go.
I turned 28k miles this week and they're still great!
__________________ 2004 EB Excursion, 4x4, 6.0, everything but step tubes and 2nd row chairs, Magnaflow Exhaust, Isspro Gauges in an under cubby pod, Fumoto sitting on V Codes and Revo 285's.
"Treat me good, I'll treat you better; treat me bad, I'll treat you worse." - Sonny Barger
I also love my Revo's. I purchased the 285s but after a couple thousand miles I sold them and bought 265's. My mpg went way down the tube. Let us know how it works out for you.
Jared
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2002 Excursion Limited 7.3L PSD, Auto, 4x4, 265/75/16 Revos, Blue Gold, AFE Stage II with ProGuard7, MBRP 4" stainless, DP tuner (hi idle, stock, 40, 60, 80, 120).
1999 BMW 540i, 6 speed, sport package, totaled.
2000 BMW 540i, 6 speed, sport package, not totaled.
Are you guys sure you're mileage is actually dropping? Are you taking into account the fact that the taller tire is not rotating as many times in a given mile as the shorter tire? It's going to throw off your speedometer and odometer readings, making them show that you've gone fewer miles than you really have. Unless you're getting your speedo recalibrated for the taller tire, its going to appear that your mileage is dropping because you are actually going farther per revolution than with the smaller tire.
I'm running 295/75s right now and I'm trying to determine how to properly take the height difference into account when calculating my mileage. Of course, without actually having a professional speedo recalibration, I'm probably wasting my time too. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Are you guys sure you're mileage is actually dropping? Are you taking into account the fact that the taller tire is not rotating as many times in a given mile as the shorter tire? It's going to throw off your speedometer and odometer readings, making them show that you've gone fewer miles than you really have. Unless you're getting your speedo recalibrated for the taller tire, its going to appear that your mileage is dropping because you are actually going farther per revolution than with the smaller tire.
I'm running 295/75s right now and I'm trying to determine how to properly take the height difference into account when calculating my mileage. Of course, without actually having a professional speedo recalibration, I'm probably wasting my time too. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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I'm sure. I calculated it. The easiest way to do it is to compare the size of the old circumference to the size of the new. You'll get a ratio of something like .9****. If you don't want to calculate circumference you can probably find it on the manufacturers websites. Multiply the ratio times your current mileage. I went from always being above 17 to never breaking 17. I went from 17-20 to 14-17 (uncorrected). The corrected still barely added 1 mpg. It just killed my truck. It might be different where you live too. My town is full of lights and hills. I noticed it on the stop and go with the hills. It might not be nearly as bad with flat country.
Jared
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2002 Excursion Limited 7.3L PSD, Auto, 4x4, 265/75/16 Revos, Blue Gold, AFE Stage II with ProGuard7, MBRP 4" stainless, DP tuner (hi idle, stock, 40, 60, 80, 120).
1999 BMW 540i, 6 speed, sport package, totaled.
2000 BMW 540i, 6 speed, sport package, not totaled.
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Are you guys sure you're mileage is actually dropping? Are you taking into account the fact that the taller tire is not rotating as many times in a given mile as the shorter tire? It's going to throw off your speedometer and odometer readings, making them show that you've gone fewer miles than you really have. Unless you're getting your speedo recalibrated for the taller tire, its going to appear that your mileage is dropping because you are actually going farther per revolution than with the smaller tire.
I'm running 295/75s right now and I'm trying to determine how to properly take the height difference into account when calculating my mileage. Of course, without actually having a professional speedo recalibration, I'm probably wasting my time too. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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I'm sure. I calculated it. The easiest way to do it is to compare the size of the old circumference to the size of the new. You'll get a ratio of something like .9****. If you don't want to calculate circumference you can probably find it on the manufacturers websites. Multiply the ratio times your current mileage. I went from always being above 17 to never breaking 17. I went from 17-20 to 14-17 (uncorrected). The corrected still barely added 1 mpg. It just killed my truck. It might be different where you live too. My town is full of lights and hills. I noticed it on the stop and go with the hills. It might not be nearly as bad with flat country.
Jared
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Actually, the only "correct" way to do it is to measure miles driven with and accurate GPS device. That being said, it can be calculated with the method you apply above, but I think you forgot one step. You arrived at the .9 ratio figure, but forgot to transform that to it's reciprocal to the correct multiplier of 1.111
Correct?
When checking my mileage utilizing my GPS, it's exactly the same as it always was.
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Seviervile TN A MAN AND HIS TRUCK, IT'S A BEATUFUL THING 01 Excursion LTD (EBM3) 7.3L, PSD, Turbo, 4X2, TTS Race Magnum (original owner) 86 GN (original owner) 87 GN (second owner) 08 Honda Accord EX-L
The 285's dropped my RPM's by a couple of hundred (hwy). As we all know, the further the rpm's are over 2000, the worse the milage gets. That being said, I did not not notice any real world milage difference (I regularly make 500-600 mile round trips, and the amount of fuel needed for this trip did not change much).
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The 285's dropped my RPM's by a couple of hundred (hwy). As we all know, the further the rpm's are over 2000, the worse the milage gets.
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True, but the taller tires mean more weight, less aerodynamics (higher truck), and the wider tires mean more rolling friction. All factors that counteract the benefit of lower RPMs. I'm just trying to figure out if those factors outweigh the lower RPMs or vice versa.
Anyone know of a tall skinny tire? I'd love to get a tire as tall as my 295/75s, but that was as skinny as a 265 for less road friction.