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Old 02-12-2010, 10:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2WD Van + snow= (your answer)

So this is my first time owning a van and first time driving it in some snow...
One of the first things it needed was tires, so I put BFG A/T on it. I figuered what the hell lol (265/70-16).
I'm glad I did for two reasons.
Looks great and it seems that even with 2WD I have plenty of traction.

On to my question, 2WD Van + snow= (your answer)
How does your 2WD van do in snow?
Your tire choice?
How deep was the snow?
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I deal with the snow each and every year, starting in Oct and lasting til April..
Tires of the last 5 years have been the Toyo open country.. 265 75r16E and have done great for year round.
I have been driving an E350 now for 10 years come June.... chained the Gasser E350 once and the 7.3 once...
Snow can be up to 12" at a time before the plows make it around.
Roads around here are ice/snow pack/open pavement but still with the black ice. but with driving on it year after year one learns how to drive on it and what speeds work and don't work,,, ie ditch diving is a sport..
Then there are the 2 full sets of chains that I have in the van if needed.... if the roads are bad enough I will not go out... if the drive way is such that I do not feel good about taking the van, that it would be better with 4x4 I use the wife's jeep..

But this is life in Snow.....
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I always have at least 1000 lbs in it so it's not too bad ...I also have decent snow tires in the back ....plus I grew up in a place similar to Alaska so I learned young how to drive in bad weather with 2WD vehicles. My favourite was my Dads 1970 Dodge Coronet with a 440 six pack ....
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A second set of wheels and Brigstone Blizzak W965 Winter Tires and added weight is my answer. Six months on and six months off. Makes a night and day difference.
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I just ordered a Powertrax to lock up my 3.55 open diff. I expect that to make a huge difference. Next up, tires, planning on the BFG Commercial T/A Traction. I've been waffling on the size tho, stay stock or size-up to the 265. Do you have pics of how they look? I've also got a receiver hitch, so I'm concerned the 265 won't fit in the spare location as it is already pretty tight. I may just keep the stock size spare, but then if I flat the rear I'll have to swap a front tire back.
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last winter old 265 m+s tires and open diff, stuck all the time.

this winter, powertrax no-slip locker and hakkapeliitta 215 snow tires, way to small tires, loocks stupid. but traction is super. newer had a problem this winter,. (normal road driving in norway winter) it will newer be as good as a 4x4.
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I've been waffling on the size tho, stay stock or size-up to the 265. Do you have pics of how they look? I've also got a receiver hitch, so I'm concerned the 265 won't fit in the spare location as it is already pretty tight. I may just keep the stock size spare, but then if I flat the rear I'll have to swap a front tire back.
265 will fit the spare carrier if you let in ride at an angle (leading edge sitting on tabs) or cut the tabs off.

I have 265 up front, with 235 in the back (same height, but maintains tire gap). They are Toyo M55s.


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...265. Do you have pics of how they look?
who me?
sorry, no close ups and no working camera right now. (if me)
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who me?
sorry, no close ups and no working camera right now. (if me)
Oh anybody who's got them. Carringb had a good pic, I think that's the way I'll go. My problem right now is when I got the van it had a like new set of Hankook take-offs from a 2008. Still have a ton of life in them so I'll probably try the locker out for a while and try to get some $$ out of these tires before spending $700+ for 5 new tires.
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My 1990 w/ the stock tire size seems to handle the snow better then my 1999 with the stock tire size. Granted, the 1990 has LS 3.54 vs open 3.55 for the 99. The 90's have Les Schawb tire.... Trailcats, I think, while the 1999 has a Goodyear Wrangler.

The 99 feels like it's a lot more front end heavy then my 90's. The 1990 feels more balanced (both are extended vans). I've actually gotten my 99 to slide a bit while braking (even though it has ABS), but never my 90. And it was the same road at the same stop sign.... was afraid I'd slide through w/ my 99 and my 90 just griped and stopped. Tread depth was okay for both too..... my guess was the tire width- the 99 has a slightly wider stock tire vs the 90's.
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If the 99 has wrangler HT tires, that is the problem. Those have poor traction on snow, compared to the Trailcats (or any tire almost).
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Briggstone Blizzak and Michlin XIce and Firestone Winterforce and all the other "winter tires only" with the soft rubber and sieps cuts, have far more road holding traction than any of these 12 month tires. They and weight are money and safety in your pocket. There is nothing like them!
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Han****s ,hankooks whatever, are good in the snow...It's snowing here right now ... with the locker you will be installing you could have slicks almost , and it would be better than current setup .... weight is the key with an open diff
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If the 99 has wrangler HT tires, that is the problem. Those have poor traction on snow, compared to the Trailcats (or any tire almost).
Got it backwards.....
90= Goodyear Wrangler AT/S
99= Toyo OpenCountry A/T

But, the OpenCountry pattern isn't that "good" I think. Not enough wide spaces for grip I think.
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Even with the ABS system for my 2000 when there is no sand on the roads here and the need to stop comes up... I am putting it into neutral... to pull power from the rear...

20 years ago was doing a very good speed, over 45 on snow pack-ice and found out the very hard way what happens when the rear still has power when locking up the brakes..

2x360 with the end trying to share the same space as another car... was not fun....

To this day if the roads are slick and I mean SLICK.... out of drive and into neutral for a no power rear for braking.
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