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Old 03-08-2007, 11:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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bought new rear end did I screw up?

have a 2004 e350 w/6.0 and 3.73 non full floating rear end. The van weights around 11,000 lbs mainly in the back. I bought a differant rear end that is a full float with a ratio of 3.55. My plan is to switch over to dual wheels and beef up the leaf springs.Did I blow it by buying this rear end or will the ratio not be that big of a deal.
I also pull a trailer some times that weights around 7,000lbs
Thanks for any advice
rick nelson
Also just bought a 98 e350 dually with the 7.3 motor and a utility box and love it.
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: bought new rear end did I screw up?

That's like putting bigger tires on your rig. It's only 5% different. When I put 35's on my truck, it was like 10%. If you're worried, put smaller diameter tires.
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Old 03-08-2007, 05:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: bought new rear end did I screw up?

I did not know 3.73 was even available in a diesel van.
What year did it become available?
As far as i know it is 4.10 or 3.55 with a diesel, as far as a 7.3 goes. Maybe with the 6.0?

3.79 was available with 5.4 gas.

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As far as i know it is 4.10 or 3.55 with a diesel,

[/ QUOTE ] I don't think this has changed. 4.10 would be much better. If you have 4.10 now, you will not like the change to 3.55.
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Re: bought new rear end did I screw up?

I think that the problem you will face is that with the 3.55 gearing, the 6.0 won't be in it's power band at cruise.

The 6.0 likes to breathe. While the 7.3 is quite happy chugging away at 1800 rpm, the 6.0 is more of a 2200 rpm animal. I think that you're going to be lugging it at highway speed, especially if you go with anything over the stock tire size.

Towing will probably have to be with the OD off, unless you're in the plain states, heading east.

Don't get me wrong.......the truck will run, it will cruise, and it will tow. But if you want to get a couple o' hundred thousand miles out of a diesel, you have to make it work. They like to work.

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Re: bought new rear end did I screw up?

or cruise at 80 mph! hehehe
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Re: bought new rear end did I screw up?

It would make me think. Not that i do it much. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Why has the rear or rear gear been changed? (3.73) [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
But to tell the truth i think the 3.73 would be perfect for the diesel van.

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Re: bought new rear end did I screw up?

I switched from 3.73's to 3.55's, I couldn't even tell the difference. My bet is you won't either.
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Re: bought new rear end did I screw up?

I've been running 3.73 since day one with 35's. I didn't go with the 4.10 because I wanted to take advantage of the diesel torq...shift and pull. If I went to 37's I d go to the 4.10. The gearing on my van is specific to my fuel and air setup.
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I've been running 3.73 since day one with 35's. I didn't go with the 4.10 because I wanted to take advantage of the diesel torq...shift and pull. If I went to 37's I d go to the 4.10. The gearing on my van is specific to my fuel and air setup.

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Your 01 came from the factory with 3.73?
Kroger changed?
What axle do you have up front? (4X4)

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Re: bought new rear end did I screw up?

Dana 60 up front and it came from the factory a 3.55. Kroger installed reluctantly, they were used to putting in 4.10 in vans.
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Re: bought new rear end did I screw up?

That is what i thought.
With oem 3.55 the tallest you can go is 3.73
Carrier changeover required if taller.

The 73 is a good combo
I run the 55 with 33 tire and its fine.

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Re: bought new rear end did I screw up?

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The van weights around 11,000 lbs mainly in the back.
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You're referring to GVWR; right?

To answer a couple of questions: When I ordered my '99 E-350 in '98, I ordered it with 3:55 gears. I could have ordered it with 3:73's or 4:10's but I chose the 355's for fuel economy.

When the rear end had to be replaced, I contemplated moving up to 3:73's, but the Ford Service Manager told me that the vehicle had been built as a package. To change the gears, would cause problems with other computorized systems.

So, as I've recommended before about OEM systems, if you're in doubt, talk with a Ford Tech. We can change a lot of things on these diesels, but there are some things that should thoroughly researched to include advice from Ford.
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To answer a couple of questions: When I ordered my '99 E-350 in '98, I ordered it with 3:55 gears. I could have ordered it with 3:73's or 4:10's but I chose the 355's for fuel economy.

When the rear end had to be replaced, I contemplated moving up to 3:73's, but the Ford Service Manager told me that the vehicle had been built as a package. To change the gears, would cause problems with other computorized systems.



[/ QUOTE ] 3.73 was not an option for you with a diesel motor in an E350. People change tire sizes and gears all the time without any "computer" issues.
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Hi toalpi; I can't argue with nor dispute what you posted. You may very well be correct. I'm basing my information about the availibility of gears on the list of options provided to me by the salesman when I ordered it, and 3.73's were available. And the service manager at Red Simon Ford in San Marcos, TX told me that I could put them in when the rear end went out, but he did not recommend it. This was not a warranty job, so I can think of no reason for him to recommend against it unless, in fact, it would create a problem.

There's a lot of knowledge and experience on this board and some of you can do just about anything to a diesel vehicle. I like to do my own work but there's a lot that I can't do. One thing is for sure, I won't make any modification that a Ford Service Technician recommends against.
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