E-Series VansTechnical discussion of topics related to vans powered by any of the Navistar engines. This covers a broad number of years, but there isn't enough demand to split it any further.
Seeing as it is getting cold out, I was wondering if I should be putting any fuel additives in the tank? Or in the oil? What do all of the experts do? Any info would be appreciated. Also, at what temperature or driving habits should I be plugging the truck in?
Bob
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2005 E-350 Super Duty Chateau 6.0 PSD
1999 Chevy Express Mark III
2000 Honda Odyssey
2002 Forest River Shamrock 25BH
Cold operation isn't a concern for me, but for starters Powerservice Diesel Kleen in the white jug is for anti-gelling of the fuel. Typically available and easy to get at China Mart.
Other folks have posted they switch to a 5w-40 Synthetic (Rotella or pick your brand of diesel oil)for easier starts in winter and then switch back to 15w-40 Dino Rotella in summer. If you have the money to spend you can run the Synthetic all year.
Can't answer the when to plug in question, but I'm sure someone here will.
ddog
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While I love diesels, I don't need one, and unfortunately, after much deliberation its a hobby I currently cannot afford.......... Gone but not forgotten:
1999.5 F250 CC SB XLT 4WD, 7.3 PSD, First F,2nd Diesel, nice but still liked the van better.
2003 E-350 Super Duty Chateau (Club Wagon)7.3PSD, 3rd Clubwagon,First diesel, Never should have sold it....
I'm on Long Island. I've never pulgged my 6.0 in, and never had a problem starting it. I plug the 7.3 in below 20 degrees, just because I want it to make heat some time before I get to the expressway.
My 1985 Mercedes 300D is a different story, but it has 285,000 miles on it......
In either case, I'm much more likely to use an oil pan heater than the stock block heater, although on a REALLY cold day, I might use both.
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2005 E350 Standard Cargo Van, 6.0 PSD, 4.10 L.S., Quigley 4X4 New on 11-18-05
(seems to manufacture oil....1 Qt per 4000 miles)
Warranty Turbo 7-07 22,000 miles
Warranty A/C compressor 10-07 25000 miles
2003 E350 Extended Cargo Van, 7.3 PSD, 3.55, Quigley 4X4 New on 2-1-04 Some Pix
Transfer Flow 46 Gal.***Delaminated***Replaced 8-29-06 UNDER WARRANTEE
XM Radio, Alpine GPS Nav. System 7.5' Western Snow Plow
Quad Captain's chairs and Espar Furnace
OX cable locker on front
ARB locker on rear
BTS Tranny 9-29-07 @55,000 miles
Aluminess Bumpers
Mile Marker 12,000 pound hydraulic winch
2000 F250 ...... just cuz people are dumping them for the fuel bill. Got mine on ebay for $8749 with 116K on the clock. Go-fast mods to follow.....
Levittown LI
Never have to plug in.
20*F today and snowing [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img]
Trick is lighter weight oil.
On the fuel additive. Its just good maintenance to use. The fuel is a winter blend. But never know when you will get a bad load.
Since ULSD i run a home blend of Kero/2 stroke mix as an additive. Would like to get Bio for the lube but on LI its a PITA and expensive to get you hands on it. The KERO was high sulfur. As time goes by it now is ULSK.
I was a north east region AMA LRRS road racer, and also did some battle of the twins AHRMA stuff. Raced at Bridgehampton, Louden, Mid Ohio, VIR, Daytona, Pocono, etc. Got a little track time at Lime Rock and Watkins Glen, too. Been retired for ten years.
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2005 E350 Standard Cargo Van, 6.0 PSD, 4.10 L.S., Quigley 4X4 New on 11-18-05
(seems to manufacture oil....1 Qt per 4000 miles)
Warranty Turbo 7-07 22,000 miles
Warranty A/C compressor 10-07 25000 miles
2003 E350 Extended Cargo Van, 7.3 PSD, 3.55, Quigley 4X4 New on 2-1-04 Some Pix
Transfer Flow 46 Gal.***Delaminated***Replaced 8-29-06 UNDER WARRANTEE
XM Radio, Alpine GPS Nav. System 7.5' Western Snow Plow
Quad Captain's chairs and Espar Furnace
OX cable locker on front
ARB locker on rear
BTS Tranny 9-29-07 @55,000 miles
Aluminess Bumpers
Mile Marker 12,000 pound hydraulic winch
2000 F250 ...... just cuz people are dumping them for the fuel bill. Got mine on ebay for $8749 with 116K on the clock. Go-fast mods to follow.....
MADVAN, we just got our first biodiesel station about 2 weeks ago,what would you recomend for a mix using the bio for additive?
should i run the staight bio or will i develope problems?
wade
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2002 E350 EXT. Cargo 7.3PSD , silver metallic , bought new presently 178K , dual alts. , auxiliary idle control , rear a/c heat , premium group , michellin LTX M/S on AMERICAN RACING WHEELS outlaw II's , centramatic balancers , optima yellow tops not worth the extra money imo weak at best replaced with wal-mart everstart maxx more snap 1/3 the price , ITP in tank mods van specific , ITP prepump filter,ITP regulated return system van specific , DP-TUNER F5, stock,40 tow,80 econo,120 extreme , NON-EBPV turbo pedistel DIESELSITE viton o-rings ,K&N filters tempararelly till i devise a better set up , more modds on way
Wade
2% mix is all you need.
It will lube and clean the fuel system.
To high of a mix will hurt MPG (lowers BTU).
Also the bio will gell at a higher amb temp.
Diesel Kleen should be fine. White Jug for winter. Follow the label. I wouldn't experiment with any blending until your warranty is done with 5 yr 100k, don't give any excuse to deny coverage.
thank you bill,
ddog, i am way out of warrantee
wade
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2002 E350 EXT. Cargo 7.3PSD , silver metallic , bought new presently 178K , dual alts. , auxiliary idle control , rear a/c heat , premium group , michellin LTX M/S on AMERICAN RACING WHEELS outlaw II's , centramatic balancers , optima yellow tops not worth the extra money imo weak at best replaced with wal-mart everstart maxx more snap 1/3 the price , ITP in tank mods van specific , ITP prepump filter,ITP regulated return system van specific , DP-TUNER F5, stock,40 tow,80 econo,120 extreme , NON-EBPV turbo pedistel DIESELSITE viton o-rings ,K&N filters tempararelly till i devise a better set up , more modds on way
I was responding to the OP, He has an '05 with a 6.0. Depending on the miles he probably has some warranty left. If I had a good runing 6.0, I don't think I'd experiment with it [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
ddog
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While I love diesels, I don't need one, and unfortunately, after much deliberation its a hobby I currently cannot afford.......... Gone but not forgotten:
1999.5 F250 CC SB XLT 4WD, 7.3 PSD, First F,2nd Diesel, nice but still liked the van better.
2003 E-350 Super Duty Chateau (Club Wagon)7.3PSD, 3rd Clubwagon,First diesel, Never should have sold it....
Come on, you consider bio/kero or 2stroke additives an experiment [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
I can maybe understand the 2stroke. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
My father started using 2 stroke additive last week and suggested I do. He is using the Walmart brand and adds about 8 oz. to a tank. He has a 2005 F250. This is what everyone is talking about, right?
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2005 E-350 Super Duty Chateau 6.0 PSD
1999 Chevy Express Mark III
2000 Honda Odyssey
2002 Forest River Shamrock 25BH
I stopped using additives a while back. When I was using them......Powerservice Diesel Kleen was what I used (just follow the directions on bottle, as stated in a previous reply).
As far as plugging it in........I plug in at about 35*F. Only reason I do this is because last year I had a glow plug issue (ie......they stopped working [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] ) and had to plug it in for a while just to get it started (Luckily I thought they might be going out, so I got up early enough to plug it in just in case (made for a good test anyway)). Went ahead and plugged it in the rest of the cold season before I had a chance to find out what was going on with the plugs (came back to a fault in the PCM of all things!!!). Does it NEED to be plugged in at 35*???? NO! But.......sure does make it nice and cozy in the van real quick.
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99 7.3L PS E-350XLSD with Ambulatory roof.
(((XM))) Satellite Radio
4" turbo back Diamond Eye exhaust (portadiesel)
Pair of K&N High flow filters
HPX Hose from D.I. (blew out.....pulled it and plugged now)
In-tank and prepump mods (homemade version)
203* thermostat (dieselsite)
Tru-Cool 4739 MAX Transmission cooler (dieselsite)
Boost Relief Valve (dieselsite)
Pillar mount Di-Pricol gauge set
Sonax/tricumulator (Black Cloud)
Jody flashed econo tune PCM (DP-Tuner)
Van specific regulated fuel return (ITP)
70k miles driven annually...mostly pulling 8 1/2 foot tall 7x14 enclosed trailer
Cruise on at 61mph and 1736rpm's I don't stop 'till she needs more go juice!
I'm using an anti gel additive that also adds lubricity. Reading too much that the low sulpher diesel's lubrication is much lower than what engine manufacturers recommend. B2 is an easy way to achieve it though. I seem to run into B2 in Iowa and Illinois, but not around home in Wisconsin. Don't travel much during the winter months with the bus.
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Super Dave
2003 Excursion Limited 4WD 7.3PSD - Prodigy brake controller, DP Tuner-60t/80e/AIC/exhaust brake, BG drive line fluids, Timbrin rear springs, 203* Tstat, Evans NPG+, coolant filter, Ford Transmission Cure
E-350 Super Duty Chateau 6.0 PSD
Supporter/User of THE CURE E4OD/4R100 Transmission Control
Linear Mode
