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Old 04-14-2011, 03:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How to tell if I have 2 or 4 wheel ABS?

Without taking everything apart, is there a sure way to know? I need to get new rotors and they asked if they were 2 or 4?? I cant get to the store if my hubs are pulled apart.

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Also, I was going to go with Wagner brand rotors and pads Semi Metallic Thermo Quite. Are they good or anyone suggest any others.
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look behind your front wheel, if you see another line, with the brake line, you have 4wheel abs. If all you have is a brake line running down behind the wheel then you have rear abs only.
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look behind your front wheel, if you see another line, with the brake line, you have 4wheel abs. If all you have is a brake line running down behind the wheel then you have rear abs only.
I do see another line on the other side just wasnt sure what it was for. From the backside of the rotor, I see teeth like on a gear. I think this is for the ABS?

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If you are asking about your '06.... They all have 4-wheel ABS.

I've been happiest with OEM pads. They seem to have the best bite, hot or cold. Downside is they also dust the most, and they do smell hot sooner. But I've never experienced any brake fade.

I've tried a lot of the aftermarket stuff BTW, and I'll stick with Ford fleet pads from now on.
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I recently installed the Wagner ThermoQuiet Semi-metalic pads on my F350 and Excursion. I am pleased with them. Strong peddle. No noise without having to goop them up. You just install them into the calipers. Because I have 71+ K miles on the truck I bought the set with the hardware -springs that hold the pads in place- and replaced the hardware at the same time.
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Thanks guys. I was thinking about going to something other than OEM because mine are shaking at 32K. I did have some weight (concrete blocks) in the back to help the snow but I wasnt over my GVWR. No panic stops. Figured I could get some with a lifetime warranty for less than OEM and if I have any more issue, I can just replace them.
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I recently installed the Wagner ThermoQuiet Semi-metalic pads on my F350 and Excursion. I am pleased with them. Strong peddle. No noise without having to goop them up. You just install them into the calipers. Because I have 71+ K miles on the truck I bought the set with the hardware -springs that hold the pads in place- and replaced the hardware at the same time.
How was brake dust? Those were the ones I was looking at. Did they stop like OEM?
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Chances are you just need need to do some hard deccelerations, without fully stopping. You likely have uneven pad deposits. Changing pads will not help.

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Chances are you just need need to do some hard deccelerations, without fully stopping. You likely have uneven pad deposits. Changing pads will not help.

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Yes, I believe I do have deposits on the rotors. The plan was to replace the rotors and pads. I didnt know that hard braking can get rid of the deposits. I will try to so some on and off freeway trips to see if it will do the trick. Its weird because sometimes its worse than others. Enough to drive me nuts. I have to repack the bearings since Im at 30K so I figured I would just replace everything. I like the idea of not spending money. I will give it a shot.
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The hard braking doesn't get rid of the deposits, it makes the deposits even around the rotor. It does work. I also now make an effort not to stay on the brakes when I come to a hard stop, like if I come off the freeway with a heavy trailer. I pop it into Park or use the parking brake instead.
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Ok guys how many of you have tried to even out the deposits on the rotors as suggested in the above link?

Does it work?

I'm about to replace a rotor and pads....
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This has been discussed in length about the deposits & how they are formed & about burnishing . Real good info. The 2nd to last post is the important info.
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Thanks, I have been reading most of the various brake posts in the F series too. My E350 definitely has the shakey brakey.

I rotated the tires a few months back and the shakey breaky was immediately gone. It has reappeared. I drove 3 of the old E series for 30 years and NEVER had a shakey brakey. So it has to be something to do with the suspension and alignment of the current E series.

Also depending on road terrain I get shakey and sometimes no shakey. So this would suggest its not entirely due to deposits?

Thanks for the link!
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