E-Series VansTechnical discussion of topics related to vans powered by any of the Navistar engines. This covers a broad number of years, but there isn't enough demand to split it any further.
I was hoping you fine people with these rare beasts would be able to help out a mere F series owner that didn't get the great brakes you did. I am looking for info on what year E series came with 10.25" disc rearends? Ideally dual wheel but are these very rare? Anybody know the distance between the spring perches as I'm trying to adapt into a 91 F-350 crewcab which has an odd frame/axle width.
my van has the rear disc brakes on it and a full floater Dana 70 rear.
What distances specifically do you need. do you need center to center or inside to inside measurements? I can also take pictures too if needed
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[Should be a D60. Question is. Is it semi or fullfloat?
I don't remember the model year it changed.
Bill
[/ QUOTE ] It was a mid model year change. feb/march ? 2001. Some report that "some" Ext bodys (EB) still have FF axles. Cab + cutaway SRW probably never changed.
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[Should be a D60. Question is. Is it semi or fullfloat?
I don't remember the model year it changed.
Bill
[/ QUOTE ] It was a mid model year change. feb/march ? 2001. Some report that "some" Ext bodys (EB) still have FF axles. Cab + cutaway SRW probably never changed.
Thank you all for the E-cellent response and I'll try to hit on all the points you were making.
Acually very few people know about the poor strange crewcab owners and their special needs. Our frames are about 3.5" wider than all the other ones. If you look at any pickup box floor, you will see provisions for a wider set of mounting holes than the ones your normal PU uses. Why? To make it a nightmare to do anything with them! I have been running adaptor plates on my truck to use dual wheels and have not found a dually crewcab rearend in four years of looking as they were not common. After going years with antilock brakes, not to be confused with good brakes that have skid control system, I've decided to kill two problems with a dually disc conversion. Now Ford didn't see fit to put them in the F series until years after the Es got them. The F450s from 88 on have only 42" between spring centers and my crewcab is 45" center to center. Now wider would work as I could massage the perches and the tires would just hang out of my flatdeck a bit more. Narrower, such as the F450s, just won't work.
Now I'd perfer the Dana 80 but I think the Es usually got the dana 70s. For those who don't know, they were a 10.5" version of the 60. Plenty strong for what I'm doing and more likely to have a 3.55/3.54 that I need to match my front axle.
Measurements between centers along with years would be great for figuring out a donar. Thanks !
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There are only two frame widths for trucks, cab / chassis are 34" and pickups are wider at 37". (These numbers will vary a little by how you measure).
Van frames are wider than pickups (not sure of the exact measurement).
Your best bet may be to buy a disk brake conversion kit.
Are you saying that amongst dually pickups, you have a different spring-pad width than a standard-cab? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
Cab & chassis F-series models are a different animal... narrower track, narower spring pads, and usually not even 4' between the inside tires.
IMO, get a rear end from an E-series cutaway. They have the wide track, and have discs from 99+. You do need to change the spring pads. These are Dana 70s on the E350 (w/parking brake) or Dana 80s on the E450 (no parking brake).
A little more info is in order. My truck started life as a 91 F350 4x4 crewcab pickup with singles. It now has a flatdeck, adaptors to run duals on the rear and I replaced the front hubs with proper dually ones. As I mentioned early, crewcabs have the wider frame/axle in the rear no matter what driveline. Now that applies to the 87-91 type and I don't know about others. BUT, I measured a 93 E350 cab and chassis and found the center to center on the springs was 46", just 1" wider than mine. That is do-able for making work.
What I'm really hoping to find here is the following:
What is the centers width of a 96, 99 and 02?
When did they start using discs on the duallys?
How rare are duallys?
Is there a difference between the dually cab/chassis axle and the dually full body vans?
This info would REALLY help me figure out what to start looking for.
My frame is about 41" wide.
Cheers.
Is there a difference between the dually cab/chassis axle and the dually full body vans?
[/ QUOTE ] Vans don't change like the f series. Discs on DRW since atleast 98. I think that all of them from that time on have the parking brake on the transmission tailshaft. There is no such thing as a DRW full body van. All DRW vans have some type of after market body. Don't forget that the driveshft is slightly offset to the right.
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