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2011 King Ranch blown engine

Just to add another to the list.

2011 F350 King Ranch CC 94,000 mile

I have owned this truck since less the 10 miles on the odometer and have performed all maintenance items.
Other than a couple egt sensors this truck has been great, but now I'm looking at $12,000 plus to put it back on the road.

I really expected this one to go several hundred thousand miles before total engine failure.

As can be seen in my signature I have been a loyal ford fan for many years.

I'm just wondering what is coming for my 2015 f450 though.

After paying a $10k premium, expensive maintenance and being on a flat bed three times, no help what so every on even trying to figure out what causied this engine fail, I'm done with Ford 6.7 Diesel engines.

Hate to go but they pi$$ed me off this time, I'll see if someone else would like to sell me a truck.

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Wow, sorry to hear.

So where do you go from here?

Put 12k in it then sell it or just scrap it and start over with something else?
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Sigh,, my 2011 has 84,000 and no issues, only an O2 sensor,, LOVE it,,

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I seriously have considered just getting rid of the thing "as is". I had the local dealership value it at around $7500 with a non
running engine or $32,000 in good running condition.


I am having my local Ford dealership install the new long block with its $12k cost purely as a way to recover
some of the value of the truck.

I guess what really got me was when someone at the dealership said it was too bad the 2017 F 350
I have on order hadn't showed up yet. Yeah right they will be keeping that one!
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Sigh,, my 2011 has 84,000 and no issues, only an O2 sensor,, LOVE it,,
That is what I thought of my 2011, good luck to you sir!

I asked what I could reasonably expect for mileage life of this motor before one would expect to do an overhaul.
This truck has been used well within reason, towing loads of not over 15k lbs, I never really "lean on it" going up or down grades here in the west.

Response from dealership: crickets

I asked the tech if I could tear the motor down to possibly find what went wrong. He said Ford wants the motor intact
or I wouldn't receive the core value. I told them I would sell it to them for $5000 or I will turn it into a coffee table.

On a side note, the only code when the motor let go was "#4 cylinder injector voltage out of range". If I'm not mistaken this is the cylinder that is used for active regen. I'm sure someone on here could verify.

When the motor let go I was driving at highway speed (55 mph here in Oregon) pulling my fifth wheel RV. At first it sounded like a right front tire was coming undone, slapping the wheel well. Pulled over, stopped, noise still there, not a tire. Next thought maybe serpentine belt going away. Nope hood open, still running, don't want to shut it down yet and cook the turbo ya know. Shut its self down trying to jump out of the engine compartment. I know in my heart it dropped a valve which eventually took out the motor. My dumb #@@ guess, the regen cylinder exhaust valve was cooked and is the culprit.

Maybe some on here have other thoughts or ideas. I would certainly love to here everyone's thoughts.

It actually was quite humorous aside from the blown motor, as I was following my wife driving the F450 pulling a gooseneck race trailer, my son driving the Dodge dually and me bringing up the rear. Of course there was no cell service. Thankfully a nice gentleman with Oregon DOT gave me a lift to their service shop to use the phone. Called wife and son to ask them if they missed me yet. They said they were wondering what happened to me! I told them not to worry as I had food, beer, bathroom, parked in a good spot! Wife made the 80 mile round trip home to drop the race trailer and returning to finish the trip for the RV. She showed at about the same time the tow company with their semi- truck sized wrecker as I told them they would be towing a F350 CC with a 36' fifth wheel toy hauler. Got it all home with only a four hour delay, not bad concidering.

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Good reads, thanks for sharing.

Just curious- and not that it has Anything to do with the engine failure- but just for grins-
What oil did you use for that engines lifespan?

I'm also in a 2011 with just over 102,000 miles now and plan on running it another 40k or so before trading in.

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I have used Rotella 5-40 when I do my own services, on occasion when Ford changes the oil it is Motorcraft
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I have used Rotella 5-40 when I do my own services, on occasion when Ford changes the oil it is Motorcraft


10-4.
Had you listed the oil I've been using I'd be sweating it a smidge more. But seeing how you were using what some consider the best, maybe I should still sweat a little anyways.


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I am not sure what the build date is on your 2011, but I am almost positive the early 2011 engines had a known issue with exhaust valves. I would question if the engine is under 100K miles if that known issue is not covered. Not sure if this applies but it may (note the bold text):

6.7L DIESEL - RUNS ROUGH - NO CRANK - GLOW PLUG CIRCUIT DIAGNOSTIC
TROUBLE CODES (DTCS) - BUILT ON OR BEFORE 3/29/2011
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN
Reference Number(s): 14-0127, Date of Issue: July 3, 2014
Superceded Bulletin(s): 12-11-11, Date of Issue: November 16, 2012
Related Ref Number(s): 12-11-11, 14-0127
ARTICLE BEGINNING
ISSUE
Some 2011 F-Super Duty vehicles equipped with a 6.7L diesel engine and built on or before
3/29/2011 may exhibit a runs rough or no crank concern due to a broken exhaust valve.
DTCs P0671,
P0672, P0673, P0674, P0675, P0676, P0677 and/or P0678 may be stored in the powertrain control
module (PCM) from a damaged glow plug. The glow plug circuit DTCs may also be accompanied by
cylinder misfire DTCs, cylinder contribution DTCs or other engine performance DTCs.
ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
1. Does the vehicle exhibit a runs rough, no crank concern with any of the following DTCs
P0671, P0672, P0673, P0674, P0675, P0676, P0677 and/or P0678?
a. No - this article does not apply. Refer to the Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis
(PC/ED) manual for normal diagnosis.
b. Yes - proceed to Step 2.
2. Remove and inspect the glow plug associated with glow plug circuit DTC present. Refer to
Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-07C. Is the glow plug damaged?
a. No - this article does not apply. Refer to the PC/ED manual for normal diagnosis.
b. Yes - replace the engine long block. Refer to WSM, Section 303-01C.
1. For prior approval warranty repairs, complete the cost cap tool by selecting short
block, both cylinder heads, oil cooler and 16 lifters.


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Sadly, you are out of warranty on that 2011. My bet too is failed exhaust valve as noted in the TSB above. This is the very reason I got rid of my 2011 last year, just after I crossed 100K miles. Just to clarify your statement, cyl #4 is not the "active regen" cylinder, at least not by itself. Prior to a calibration change last year, just one of the banks was firing for regen, don't recall which side. Then new calibration came out, that now make all the cylinders contribute to the regen process. The other common problem with 2011, 2012's are the turbo's, especially if running a tune that increases boost. Those were also known as a weak link.

My guess is your 2015 F450 will be rock solid for a long time to come. I monitor this board, and another, and there have been very few common issues like yours in the 2015-2016 model years. Jury is out on 2017's yet, but no reason to believe anything bad there, as the powertrain is close to identical to the 2016's.

My fear is that we will see a spike in 2011 grenading this year, and beyond, as the used prices on these are low enough that they are getting popular.

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Damnit man,,, My 2011 is a "Job 1" truck, with the two tone leather. Not sure of the build date, but I bought it in Sept of 2010.... so early for sure.
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I am not sure what the build date is on your 2011, but I am almost positive the early 2011 engines had a known issue with exhaust valves. I would question if the engine is under 100K miles if that known issue is not covered. Not sure if this applies but it may (note the bold text):

6.7L DIESEL - RUNS ROUGH - NO CRANK - GLOW PLUG CIRCUIT DIAGNOSTIC
TROUBLE CODES (DTCS) - BUILT ON OR BEFORE 3/29/2011
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN
Reference Number(s): 14-0127, Date of Issue: July 3, 2014
Superceded Bulletin(s): 12-11-11, Date of Issue: November 16, 2012
Related Ref Number(s): 12-11-11, 14-0127
ARTICLE BEGINNING
ISSUE
Some 2011 F-Super Duty vehicles equipped with a 6.7L diesel engine and built on or before
3/29/2011 may exhibit a runs rough or no crank concern due to a broken exhaust valve.
DTCs P0671,
P0672, P0673, P0674, P0675, P0676, P0677 and/or P0678 may be stored in the powertrain control
module (PCM) from a damaged glow plug. The glow plug circuit DTCs may also be accompanied by
cylinder misfire DTCs, cylinder contribution DTCs or other engine performance DTCs.
ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
1. Does the vehicle exhibit a runs rough, no crank concern with any of the following DTCs
P0671, P0672, P0673, P0674, P0675, P0676, P0677 and/or P0678?
a. No - this article does not apply. Refer to the Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis
(PC/ED) manual for normal diagnosis.
b. Yes - proceed to Step 2.
2. Remove and inspect the glow plug associated with glow plug circuit DTC present. Refer to
Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-07C. Is the glow plug damaged?
a. No - this article does not apply. Refer to the PC/ED manual for normal diagnosis.
b. Yes - replace the engine long block. Refer to WSM, Section 303-01C.
1. For prior approval warranty repairs, complete the cost cap tool by selecting short
block, both cylinder heads, oil cooler and 16 lifters.

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Damnit man,,, My 2011 is a "Job 1" truck, with the two tone leather. Not sure of the build date, but I bought it in Sept of 2010.... so early for sure.
There should be a build tag on the engine with the date, but if I had to guess I would say...tick, tick, tick. I would check into this issue ASAP because even if you have to pay out of pocket to replace the valves (or some portion thereof), that will be infinitely cheaper than replacing the entire engine.


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There should be a build tag on the engine with the date, but if I had to guess I would say...tick, tick, tick. I would check into this issue ASAP because even if you have to pay out of pocket to replace the valves (or some portion thereof), that will be infinitely cheaper than replacing the entire engine.

The build date (well, the month/year) is in the top left corner of the vin tag in the door jam. If you still have your window sticker its on the bottom near the center.

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The build date (well, the month/year) is in the top left corner of the vin tag in the door jam. If you still have your window sticker its on the bottom near the center.
You are correct, but that is the build date of the truck and not necessarily the engine. From what I understand, they can be different dates (by a large amount) and it is the engine build date which tends to dictate if it falls into the group of engines which have certain problems.


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Oh...I'm not sure on that. I think everything on these trucks goes by the truck build date. Ford then keeps track of all components internal from that. I could be wrong, but when I read the text you highlighted in the TSB, I understand that as saying all Superduty's built on or before 3/29/2011.... Maybe someone with some deeper knowledge will chime in for us.

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