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I have changed my mind on what I want for a truck, at first I was going to get a pickup to replace my truck, But I am thinking it will be more beneficial for my business if I replace my dump truck instead.
I am looking at a 2013 xlt F350 dump truck. It will be used for my landscaping business and it will tow a 20' enclosed car hauler trailer. Loaded up weight will be around 9k every day with probably a couple thousand in the dump body. Always used to haul material also. I cant make up my mind which rear end to get in it. Either the 3.73 or 4.10. I know the 3.73 will do it fine, but since I tow every day would the 4.1 be more beneficial? it very rarely will run empty since it is strictly a work vehicle?
I know the 3.73 will get better mileage empty but with it always towing i feel like the 4.1 wont have to work as hard at it. The driving it will be doing will be a good combination between city and highway.
Thanks guys!
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1999 F350 7.3 ext. cab long bed
9'2" Boss Power-V plow
2 Yard Warren Aluminum Sander
1999 F350 7.3 Dump
9' Fisher plow
2.5 Yard Hi-Way Sander
2002 F250 5.4 ext.cab short bed
8' SS Fisher X-Blade
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2000 F-450 PSD, Auto 19.5' Flatbed Wrecker
Mods: PTO Mounted on trans and Trans Gauge, 6.0 Cooler, and Dieselsite Trans Filter Kit
2002 F-450 PSD, Auto WheelLift
Mods: Banks Exhaust, Triple Gauge pod Autometer Ultra-lite (Boost Pryo Trans Temp), FactoryTech Valvebody, Dieselsite Trans Filter Kit
2003 F-550 PSD 7.3, Auto WheelLift
Mods: DiPricol Guages (Boost Pryo Trans Temp, DP Chip (Stock, 40 Tow, 80 Econo), BTS Valvebody, Dieselsite Trans Filter Kit, 6.0 cooler, 4" MagnaFlow XL Exhaust Customized to fit infront of the axle with a 6 inch tip
2004 F-650 Supercab Black Flatbed Cat 7.2 Straight 6 with an Allison Auto
We bought a Cab/Chassis 2012, it came with a 4.10 or 4.30 rear end. I highly recommend it. You have to take into account the C/C setup comes with a derated engine. With the 6 spd auto tran it is the smoothest HEAVY truck I've ever driven.
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Tim in Central Florida
2012 F350 CC SB Lariat Tuxedo Black w/RollnLock bed cover
2012 F350 CC Cab/Chassis with 9' Knapheid tool box
2006 F250 CC Lariat with ARE construction cap
2007 F350 CC Lariat with 8' Knapheid tool box
2006 E350 Extended Cargo Van
2005 F350 CC King Ranch with ARE construction cap
2005 E350 Extended Cargo Van
2004 E350 Extended Cargo Van
And, sorry to mention on this forum
Two 2012 Nissan NV3500 High Roof cargo vans
I would skip the F350 and step up to the F450 or F550. If you put a good dump bed on a F350 it will weigh 1500 - 2000lbs. That leaves little room for pay load. Even with my F450 I can only haul 3 ton legal but the F450 has much bigger breaks, axles, and heavier tires. I have 4.30 gears in mine. Only time I wish I had 4.88 is when I load the truck to max and then hook up 14,000lbs trailer. The truck crys when I do that to it
I did end up realizing that the F350 was de-tuned in C&C after making this thread, at first I thought it was only the 450 and 550 that were de-tuned, didn't realize that also included the 350.. That is very disappointing. Why do they do that? You need the power more with the C&C than a pickup!! Since I now know that the 350 is also de-tuned, i will definitely be going with the 4.10.
I was leaning away from the de-tuned engine because they have more problems with those than the pickup engines. (turbos and valves dropping and ruining the engine)
Have they fixed the turbo problem at all? I heard that was huge at first. How bad is this problem? I have heard of some people losing the turbo every 8-10k miles...
I do actually want a 450 because of the greater turning radius and the extra payload, but I know registration and insurance will be significantly more than the 350.. Anyone in the NH area know how much more they typically run?
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1999 F350 7.3 ext. cab long bed
9'2" Boss Power-V plow
2 Yard Warren Aluminum Sander
1999 F350 7.3 Dump
9' Fisher plow
2.5 Yard Hi-Way Sander
2002 F250 5.4 ext.cab short bed
8' SS Fisher X-Blade
I have changed my mind on what I want for a truck, at first I was going to get a pickup to replace my truck, But I am thinking it will be more beneficial for my business if I replace my dump truck instead.
I am looking at a 2013 xlt F350 dump truck. It will be used for my landscaping business and it will tow a 20' enclosed car hauler trailer. Loaded up weight will be around 9k every day with probably a couple thousand in the dump body. Always used to haul material also. I cant make up my mind which rear end to get in it. Either the 3.73 or 4.10. I know the 3.73 will do it fine, but since I tow every day would the 4.1 be more beneficial? it very rarely will run empty since it is strictly a work vehicle?
I know the 3.73 will get better mileage empty but with it always towing i feel like the 4.1 wont have to work as hard at it. The driving it will be doing will be a good combination between city and highway.
Thanks guys!
Hey Jguck25!
Let me know if you end up ordering a Super Duty; I'll be happy to track the order for you. Just send me a PM with your order number/dealer name and I'll get the info.
Let me know if you end up ordering a Super Duty; I'll be happy to track the order for you. Just send me a PM with your order number/dealer name and I'll get the info.
Thanks!
Crystal
Thanks Crystal! I am not sure if I will be ordering it through the website or not, that is what I was leaning towards but I have found a couple new 2012 leftovers that i have my eye on right now. I am still about a month or so out from ordering one at this point, I want to get a few other things in the business straightened out first. I appreciate the help though
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1999 F350 7.3 ext. cab long bed
9'2" Boss Power-V plow
2 Yard Warren Aluminum Sander
1999 F350 7.3 Dump
9' Fisher plow
2.5 Yard Hi-Way Sander
2002 F250 5.4 ext.cab short bed
8' SS Fisher X-Blade
go look at specs on any class 4-6 truck. Horsepower over 250 is non-existent except for the horse trailer and RV toter market. FL Sport Chassis and IH models targeted at Emergency, fire, and custom chassis have some 330 HP offerings.
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Don't tell my cattle I got leather seats!
2006 F450 CC Hauler bed 4x2 6.0 L Pstroke/Torqshift, Lariat, 4.30 r/a.
2006 F350 Lariat CC Dually 4X2, 6.0 TQShift 4.10 LS, STOCK.
36 feet on the floor Elite/Outlaw LQ horse trailer.
36 foot double tandem axle flatbed trailer.
36 foot Sooner 6 horse large dressing/ mid tack.
15 horses with good balance from being hauled behind a P'stroke.
go look at specs on any class 4-6 truck. Horsepower over 250 is non-existent except for the horse trailer and RV toter market. FL Sport Chassis and IH models targeted at Emergency, fire, and custom chassis have some 330 HP offerings.
Thats a good point.. they must have different setups as far as axle ratios and transmission ratios? I know the power of the C&C is enough, but I still wish it had the power the pickup does.. So much so That I may start looking at pickups instead.. I will be towing a lot of weight on a daily basis, and also towing up to 14k occasionally, and if im spending close to 50k on a truck, i want the power of the pickup
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1999 F350 7.3 ext. cab long bed
9'2" Boss Power-V plow
2 Yard Warren Aluminum Sander
1999 F350 7.3 Dump
9' Fisher plow
2.5 Yard Hi-Way Sander
2002 F250 5.4 ext.cab short bed
8' SS Fisher X-Blade
Thats a good point.. they must have different setups as far as axle ratios and transmission ratios? I know the power of the C&C is enough, but I still wish it had the power the pickup does.. So much so That I may start looking at pickups instead.. I will be towing a lot of weight on a daily basis, and also towing up to 14k occasionally, and if im spending close to 50k on a truck, i want the power of the pickup
You can always buy the pickup and do a bed delete after you take delivery. There are plenty of junkyards around that would buy new take off pick up beds from guys doing this. The only disadvantage you end up with the frame for an 8ft bed, which is a little short for a dump body.
Thanks Crystal! I am not sure if I will be ordering it through the website or not, that is what I was leaning towards but I have found a couple new 2012 leftovers that i have my eye on right now. I am still about a month or so out from ordering one at this point, I want to get a few other things in the business straightened out first. I appreciate the help though
Sounds good, Jguck25. Just let me know when you move forward and I'll keep you in the loop!
This question doesnt really have anything to do with this thread, but I dont want to start a pointless new thread in the forum.
This may be a question for Chrystal, or if anyone knows the answer then thats good too
On the build your own truck on the ford website they do a lot of weird things that make absolutely no sense to me.. For example, I want the lariat interior package to have the heated and cooled seats, but it wont let me do that with 20" aluminum wheels. Why? you can have heated seats if you have 18" wheels, but absolutely not if you have 20" wheels? That just doesnt make any sense to me.. Is there a way around that? any explanation as to why?
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1999 F350 7.3 ext. cab long bed
9'2" Boss Power-V plow
2 Yard Warren Aluminum Sander
1999 F350 7.3 Dump
9' Fisher plow
2.5 Yard Hi-Way Sander
2002 F250 5.4 ext.cab short bed
8' SS Fisher X-Blade
Yeah I was gonna ask about a pick up bed delete (if ordered) or taking off factory bed. Is it easy to adapt a pu frame rail to your dump bed? Otherwise seems like a 450 would be the way to go to get to full benefits of a chassis cab.
Yeah I was gonna ask about a pick up bed delete (if ordered) or taking off factory bed. Is it easy to adapt a pu frame rail to your dump bed? Otherwise seems like a 450 would be the way to go to get to full benefits of a chassis cab.
As long as you don't mind a short dump bed(8' is considered short) you can make it work. Most of the cab/chassis options have a 10-12 foot frame for longer beds.
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