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Old 12-10-2012, 05:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ball joints/ Tie rod longevity

I am considering purchasing a 2012or 13 f350 6.7 and was wondering how long people were getting out of there upper/lower ball joints and tie rod ends as they don,t have any grease fittings? My 2004 has gone thru 4 complete front ends in 160k. truck is bone stock but i run a tree farm and am constantly in mud and water and in and out of 4wd daily. even with moog greaseable joints can only get 40k.Our other brand trucks seem to go almost twice the distance on componets, anyway how are they holding up from people that work them? Thanks in advance
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I can't speak for the newer trucks on this subject but I just replaced the FACTORY ball joints on my 1987 F350 and they didn't have grease fittings either, at 195,000mi and 25 years!
I don't think I'm worried about them on my 11 F250.

Interesting side note, my 2012 F550 I just got has grease fittings on the ball joints. Wonder why they don't just put them on all the trucks? It can't cost any extra.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I've never had to replace anything on any of the Ford's I've owned but I'm not out in the mud everyday either. You are really working the truck and I wouldn't expect to get excellent longevity out of parts. I'm assuming your other trucks are GM products because there is no way you are getting twice the service out of a Mopar frontend...they can't even make 40K running on the highway.
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wow,you guys get some good milage out of frontends ,I have had new ford trucks since 1985 and have never ever gotten more than 50k out of a front end. Yes one other truck is a 2007 chevy 3500 it went 90k original parts , but it came with grease fittings and we grease every oil change, other is a 2005 dodge 2500 no grease fittings ,it went 70k but was pretty bad and needed everthing. I understand I am on the extreme side of use and I am not loyal to anyone company just who ever gives the best deal at time of need. Anyway thanks for the feedback.
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renner...I used to get tired of greasing my 2007 Chevy, but again the frontend definitely lasted. Not sure whether the new GM's still have greasers or not. Also not sure whether the new coil front suspension on the super dutys are easier or harder on frontend parts than the previous leaf spring setup. A friend of mine has a 2006 Ford and its been subjected to the same type of work as your trucks and that has over 100K on it and no frontend work.
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I typically run my trucks 100,000 miles before selling them.
I tow a lot, Horse trailers, skld loaders, mini-excavator, hauling hay etc.

Most of it is pavement, But I do wander down a few Forest Service and BLM roads with my horse trailer heading to trail heads. Those can often be 20 miles of washboard.

I've never had to replace any front suspension components on my trucks in the 100,000 mile lifes that I've owned them.
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My 2011 has no grease zerks anywhere I can find. My 2012 F550 has a boat load of zerks on the ball joints, tie rods etc.

My 1997 F450 has a ton of zerks also and with 146K on the origional front end it is going strong. I grease every oil change and I haul heavy loads with it all the time. Go into fields with it from time to time too.
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Thanks for all the feedback, the new trucks are really nice and I was impressed when i test drove a F350 srw cc lb ,almost too nice. I think the combo of grity mud and water really wears my stuff out,no matter who makes it.
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50000 miles and my tie rod ends are shot.
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[QUOTE=luke0204;2251045A friend of mine has a 2006 Ford and its been subjected to the same type of work as your trucks and that has over 100K on it and no frontend work.[/QUOTE]
Ford went to the coil spring suspension in the 2005 model year, turns better and rides a whole lot nicer than the leafs. I have seen ball joints go anywhere from as little as 15K to as long as 190K(wifes '05). It really depends on how much turning you do along with the environment you are in. A truck that spends most of it's life on the highway that on average the tightest turn it ever makes is pulling into a rest stop parking spot will hardly ever wear out. If it is a vehicle that is running up and down rows of fruit trees in and out of the mud they are going to wear much faster. Parts themselves are usually pretty cheap, it is the labor that drives the cost of repair so high.
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50000 miles and my tie rod ends are shot.
And with the total lack of any profile or post info I have no idea if you have a Ford, Ram, GM, or a Smart car and what year it is.

Not trying to be too snippy but you know what you drive but no one else does.
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