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Old 11-02-2010, 03:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Changing oil through the dipstick tube?

Does anyone know of a pump that will work on the 6.7L to take oil out through the dipstick tube? Or will any of them work?

I'd like to be able to get some oil out for oil analysis without having to drain it all out through the plug on the oil pan. Or perhaps there's a better way?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 11-02-2010, 05:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Get a vacuum extractor pump like is used on boats to pull oil out the dip stick tube.
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I've actually thought of changing the oil this way - especially after the stories of all 13 quarts leaving at once. From the looks of it you will need a large amount of tubing to get to the oil pan.
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Haven't heard of the oil changeing problems you mention. Take this from a guy who has to change the oil in two marine engines via the dipstick tube, its not alot of fun to suck up 6 qts from each engine let alone 13 from one. I think draining the oil out the bottom thru the drain plug is superior in that it gets all the sediments that could get left behind by a suction pump. On my marine engines, the dipstick tube attaches where the oil drain plug would normally be, so I am in effect sucking from the bottom of the sump. I don't think you could do a thorough job on our truck engines with a pump alone.
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I've actually thought of changing the oil this way - especially after the stories of all 13 quarts leaving at once. From the looks of it you will need a large amount of tubing to get to the oil pan.
HUH???
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I installed the fumoto drain plug and this way you can get test samples and it makes for a much quicker and easier oil change. check it out

http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?...S&Category=451
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I installed the fumoto drain plug and this way you can get test samples and it makes for a much quicker and easier oil change. check it out

http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?...S&Category=451
So you have a Fumoto drain valve on a 6.7l Ford Diesel?
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So you have a Fumoto drain valve on a 6.7l Ford Diesel?

No, Mine is the 04 6.0L. They should have one for the 6.7L. I would contact them and see. Here is the info from there site. Show a N/A but I would contact them and see when they will be available.

http://www.fumotousa.com/size_domestic.htm

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No, Mine is the 04 6.0L. They should have one for the 6.7L. I would contact them and see. Here is the info from there site. Show a N/A but I would contact them and see when they will be available.

Engin Oil Drain Valve - Fumoto Engineering
Um,,, the 6.7 kinda has a FACTORY Fumoto,,, it has a 1/4 turn plug, which I don't think comes all the way out. I don't know for sure, as I only have 28xx miles on mine. I recall seeing a video of someones first change on it, and have not changed mine yet.. Probably will next weekend, catch it earlier for the first change.
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That was me on the oil change. I was really interested to see how the new drain plug worked and I can't see Fumoto making anything to work with the 6.7L. The oil pan is plastic (poly compound) and has no threads. It's a little over a quarter turn and the entire plug comes straight out leaving a 3/4 inch hole. The oil comes out FAST but that is good, not bad. There's an urban legend out there that says you have to make a mess when changing the oil. You just have to have a pan or bucket that will accommodate the fast flow. The only problem I can tell is that it would be difficult to take a sample and stop the flow after it gets started. If you want to see it again, the video is on Youtube. Search: 2011 Ford Super Duty Oil Change
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if you just want a little oil why not just unscrew the oil filter? now i haven's seen where the filter is located but i would think you could remove it and dump a little oil and ether put it back on or just replace it with out loosing very much oil. Just a thought
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if you just want a little oil why not just unscrew the oil filter? now i haven's seen where the filter is located but i would think you could remove it and dump a little oil and ether put it back on or just replace it with out loosing very much oil. Just a thought
The oil filter is inverted on the passenger side of the engine. As soon as you break the seal, oil comes down all around the exterior of the filter. Messy.
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I would actually suck the oil out and then pull the drain plug. I usually drop some fresh oil in and let it drain out to "get the sediments out."

Just trying to eliminate the possible mess. Epic - You looked quite hesitant in your first oil change so something out there told you to look out, too.

I haven't had to change the oil in one yet - just thinking of the best way to do it! Fumoto valve would be great, I've had them before. Hopefully they get a solution for the 6.7, only time will tell.
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I use one of these:
Amazon.com: Mityvac MITMV8500 Silverline Elite Automotive Vacuum Pump Kit: Automotive Amazon.com: Mityvac MITMV8500 Silverline Elite Automotive Vacuum Pump Kit: Automotive

just run tubing down the dipstick tube and capture in the vacuum bottle.
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Just trying to eliminate the possible mess. Epic - You looked quite hesitant in your first oil change so something out there told you to look out, too.
lol, exactly. I was very nervous about the oil flow due to comments by other members. I was imagining oil all over me and the floor. Frankly, I was glad for those comments or I might not have handled it correctly. Obviously, it is very easy to do with a proper pan or even 5 gallon bucket as others have said. My only advise is to hold the container up high at first and then lower it to the floor when you know where the oil is going.

The question of how to sample the oil for analysis without draining the entire engine is still open though.
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