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Old 03-07-2012, 02:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ford engine brake

Does the 2012 F350 sb srw desiel engine have a engine turbo brake like gm or dodge. I'm a flat land heading to Utah and Colorado and think this is a deal breaker in my new truck purchase.
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Yes the 6.7l has an exhaust brake.
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The 6.7L has an exhaust brake in tow/haul mode...overall it works great for me, have had no issues keeping my rig under control empty or loaded.

I did have a 6.7L Cummins with a stick and exhaust brake...I hate to admit but that is the ultimate combo if you want to slow down. The exhaust brakes with automatic transmissions are not nearly as effective on slow down since they will not hold gears like a manual to let the exhaust brake slow the vehicle. My Cummins worked just like a big rig and sounded like one too.
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Thanks guys. I guess a new ford it is.
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The trick to the Ford Exhaust brake is to get Into the right BEFORE you start downhill.

The exhaust brake needs RPMs in the high 2000 to lower 3000 rpms to be effective. Going downhill in a gear at 1800 rpm will not produce much back pressure. For example 2nd gear will hold a pretty good load at 45 mph But 3rd gear won't hold much at 50 mph. Just slow to appropriate speed and use the +/- button to down shift to the correct gear.

I frequently come down Parleys Canyon ( I-80) and Daniels Canyon ( US40) in Utah, Both have 7% grades, pulling a 13,000 lb GN horse trailer, I can come down those grades and never touch my brake pedal. The exhaust brake holds the load just fine.
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Painted Horse, what gear are you in on that 7% grade?

I pull a fifth wheel trailer (#17000), most years I buy a new Ford, and have always experienced like you no need for truck brakes on a 6% grade.

This 2011 has the weakest grade braking system of any Ford I have run. I just ran down the Camp Verde 10 mile 6% grade in Arizona, third gear between 3500 to 4000 rpm, needed the truck brake 5 times. This is just one example, has happened to me many times.

This issue is a big deal with me, between needing air bags and this grade braking issue, can't understand what Ford is thinking.

I have always been a head, I really don't want to think about the dark side, sooooo hope Ford gets there arms around these issues.
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I'm pulling a 13,000lb trailer and your 4,000 lbs extra probably makes the difference. 2nd gear for 45 mph and 3rd gear for 65 mph

I had a B&D Exhaust Brake on my 2006 6.0L and this new Ford is every bit as strong in braking IF I get it slowed down and into the right gear at the top of the grade.
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So for going down long grades take it out of auto put it in third gear and keep RPms below 4000. Is this the best wat to go down hills?
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I'm pulling a 13,000lb trailer and your 4,000 lbs extra probably makes the difference. 2nd gear for 45 mph and 3rd gear for 65 mph

I had a B&D Exhaust Brake on my 2006 6.0L and this new Ford is every bit as strong in braking IF I get it slowed down and into the right gear at the top of the grade.

thats the key..to have it in the correct gear. Unfortuneatly, the Ford set up is not as good as the Cummins, nor the Duramax. The Cummins is by far the loudest of the group and you think it is doing the best job at slowing down your load vs the Duramax's slightly more sophisticated system which is slightly better and quieter getting the job done. FORD NEEDS TO GET THIS PERFECTED. Everything else on the Fords are better than the competetion except this. Jeff
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You can leave it in Drive and just press the - button to remove the option for 6-5-4 gear. I often just slow down to the right speed and press the cruise button and let the tranny find the gear. I've never bothered to shift the lever to M and manage the gears manually.

It's definitely not a perfect solution. And maybe for your 16,000 lbs it not strong enough. But i've learned to make use of it with my 13,000 lbs horse trailer. Just learn what speeds/gears work the best for your load. I've found that comming down Daniels Canyon ( head of canyon has some 8%) that I can't expect my truck to hold back the load at 65 mph. So I slow to 50mph as I crest the summit and get into the right gear and it will hold me under 60 mph. If I leave the cruise set at 65 as I crest the summit, I'll soon be doing 75 mph unless I apply brakes. So slow down to a 5 mph less than the speed you want to take corners at and set the cruise.

I've come down Daniels Canyon, Parley Canyon and off Logan Canyon into Bear Lake and never touched my brakes and stayed at speeds suggested by the yellow corner signs..
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