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Old 12-23-2012, 11:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok so what's happened??

I was on my way home tonight from eating. When I am pulling out of the parking lot the truck just takes off like I punched it and then it is fine. I get going down the road and it starts surging in 4th gear. Acting like it was running out of fuel. What is the deal. Is this the shutter that everyone talks about


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I was on my way home tonight from eating. When I am pulling out of the parking lot the truck just takes off like I punched it and then it is fine. I get going down the road and it starts surging in 4th gear. Acting like it was running out of fuel. What is the deal. Is this the shutter that everyone talks about


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Hi mlsteele,

Have you dropped by your dealership so they can take a look? Additionally, I'm happy to get your case escalated to your regional customer service manager; just send me a PM with your VIN, dealer, mileage, daytime phone number and full name. I'll get to work!

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My truck does that occasionally to. I think it's all part of the smog stuff choking the engine! I doubt the dealer will be able to diagnose anything unless the check engine light came on and through a code. I don't take mine in to the dealer unless absolutely necessary, because in my past experience they ussually do more harm then good. I like my truck but just live with the occasional quirks that go along with emmission related issues until some new re-map recall is issued.
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My truck does that occasionally to. I think it's all part of the smog stuff choking the engine! I doubt the dealer will be able to diagnose anything unless the check engine light came on and through a code. I don't take mine in to the dealer unless absolutely necessary, because in my past experience they usually do more harm then good. I like my truck but just live with the occasional quirks that go along with emmission related issues until some new re-map recall is issued.

Yeah, we dealership idiots can't fix anything.

Your statement is not only NOT helpful to the topic or the original poster it is also disrespectful to an entire body of professionals. I am sick and tired of the name calling and besmirching of dealerships and technicians receive in these forums. It is not good for the Diesel Stop community and it also turns away many professionals from participating who could be valuable to have around. But hey, if that is what the members here want then we can all continue the bashing and smearing and say nothing when we see it going on.
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Mine gets its panties in a bunch every time it's ready to go into regen...you accelerate and it spits and sputters and then all of a sudden it figures it out and takes off like it should. It's done it since it was new, I don't think it's right but I haven't had it checked out either.

I've got a little list of things I want addressed so it will be visiting a shop in the near future.

Ford Doctor...I appreciate when you do weigh in on subjects, I've taken your advice on a lot of things over the years with all my trucks. Sorry there are a number of morons that don't feel the same.
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I was on my way home tonight from eating. When I am pulling out of the parking lot the truck just takes off like I punched it and then it is fine. I get going down the road and it starts surging in 4th gear. Acting like it was running out of fuel. What is the deal. Is this the shutter that everyone talks about
A shudder would be more likely caused by an upshift event with the transmission but the engine can also make a shudder type feeling. A surge is an engine performance issue. Without experiencing the concern for myself it is hard to say what you have going on here but it does sound like an engine performance/driveability concern.

These trucks actually have very few driveability problems however there have been a couple of calibration updates that address multiple items for the engine and transmission. There is also a service bulletin concerning the turbocharger that corrects an engine shudder by replacing the turbocharger. You should take your truck into your dealership to have it checked. The service bulletins and calibrations may or may not apply depending on the build date of your truck.

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Ford_Doc -- I have seen too many good techs leave this board over the past years I have been either lurking or a member. I appreciae your input too and I do take my vehicle into the dealer to have them looked at. Sometimes I wait as a number of people (and you) have commented that the problem I am having there is no fix for, yet. And then when one is available I go in and have it done. The previous NoX and driveability update being an example of one.

And I have had my share of bad dealership visits (not just Ford) -- but it always seems to work out in the end.
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I bet I have more miles (300,000) in fairly heavy service (see Ford.com/trucks/super duty/Men who Own Work) than pretty much any other single owner out there. Overall Ford and Ford techs have taken good care of me and solved any problem they thought were Ford issues. My home dealer is Luther Ford in Fargo ND, Brian is my adviser and Adam is the tech that works on my trucks pretty much exclusively. These are new, very complex motors and like any new thing there is a learning curve, we're on the steep limb of the learning curve. Along the way not every problem is going to be solved to everyone's satisfaction and not every problem is going to have a solution right now. there is a lot to learn, I think you and you tribe are doing a great job trying to keep your heads above water.
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I will say if you have not had the latest recall done on the truck I would recommend it. I have a 2011 Made in January of 2011 and I had issues when the trans that would surge and give me some small fits here and there. Since the new updates the truck has been great.
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I will say if you have not had the latest recall done on the truck I would recommend it. I have a 2011 Made in January of 2011 and I had issues when the trans that would surge and give me some small fits here and there. Since the new updates the truck has been great.
What "latest recall" are you referring to? Do you have the TSB number?
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Yeah, we dealership idiots can't fix anything.

Your statement is not only NOT helpful to the topic or the original poster it is also disrespectful to an entire body of professionals. I am sick and tired of the name calling and besmirching of dealerships and technicians receive in these forums. It is not good for the Diesel Stop community and it also turns away many professionals from participating who could be valuable to have around. But hey, if that is what the members here want then we can all continue the bashing and smearing and say nothing when we see it going on.
Hey Ford_Doctor I for one value your opinion on problem solving. The pros here have been very helpful in the past and I hope I can count on you guys in the future. Try and not let the Me and Mrs negative get to you.

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I have experienced a similar deal to Steele almost all of the time. When I am easing through a field for example there is a very fine line between acceleration and maintaining a very slow speed. It defiantly "surges" while doing this for any amount of distance. I have also experienced some strange shifts and almost quirky tranny events at times. I looked and drove dodge and Chevy when picking out this truck. I drove ford last and as I suspected if I had drove a ford first I wouldn't have been able to make myself seriously consider anything else. 37k miles so far and I love the truck. Would love to know where this surging issue and the tranny sort of hunting for a gear goes. I don't want to take mine in until I know what they will want to do to it if anything.
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I bet I have more miles (300,000) in fairly heavy service (see Ford.com/trucks/super duty/Men who Own Work) than pretty much any other single owner out there. Overall Ford and Ford techs have taken good care of me and solved any problem they thought were Ford issues. My home dealer is Luther Ford in Fargo ND, Brian is my adviser and Adam is the tech that works on my trucks pretty much exclusively. These are new, very complex motors and like any new thing there is a learning curve, we're on the steep limb of the learning curve. Along the way not every problem is going to be solved to everyone's satisfaction and not every problem is going to have a solution right now. there is a lot to learn, I think you and you tribe are doing a great job trying to keep your heads above water.
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Thank you so much, tlhort! Your comments really made my day; I always love hearing from high-milers such as yourself. If you ever need any assistance, you know how to reach me.

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I was on my way home tonight from eating. When I am pulling out of the parking lot the truck just takes off like I punched it and then it is fine. I get going down the road and it starts surging in 4th gear. Acting like it was running out of fuel. What is the deal. Is this the shutter that everyone talks about
Out of curiosity, how old are your fuel filters? Every single time I've experienced surging on my 6.0L it's just been because the filters needed replacing -- even before the 15k interval, if I had dirty fuel or ran Bio which will dissolve all the crap stuck to your tank.

If it's been a little while, try replacing them and see what happens.
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I was on my way home tonight from eating. When I am pulling out of the parking lot the truck just takes off like I punched it and then it is fine. I get going down the road and it starts surging in 4th gear. Acting like it was running out of fuel. What is the deal. Is this the shutter that everyone talks about


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I have had these same surge issues. I have also had a couple "false reverse " situations. The surge concerns me. The shifting to "find a gear" also concerns me as this has also happened. The false reverse is this. Go to make a 3 point turn...go forward, brake, then shift into reverse...tap throttle (or not- just rolling) truck surges forward instead...hit brake again...then it goes into reverse fully. This is all at "rolling speeds' (no throttle). This is a bit scary to me....2012 SD 6.7 truck only has 9k on it
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