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Old 01-24-2013, 08:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I done a search and found the instructions to do the high idle hookup, my question is do you have to use a resistor or can it be like the 6.0 and just connect the wires? This will be on my new '13 F250 XLT 6.7. Any help.
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Resistor needed as per Ford upfitter SEIC instructions, see page 13-14 of the SEIC/PTO install book
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Resistor only costs about 15 cents.
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I'm surprised nobody makes a plug and play setup.
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Wolf451, thanks for the information. Is this book (SECI/PTO) availble, and where?

Richx350, that would be great if they did. Make it a lot easier. On my '05 6.0 it was simple but now it sounds a little more troublesome.

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I'm surprised nobody makes a plug and play setup.
I looked and could not find one, so I built one for about $20 worth of parts.
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Wolf451, thanks for the information. Is this book (SECI/PTO) availble, and where?

Richx350, that would be great if they did. Make it a lot easier. On my '05 6.0 it was simple but now it sounds a little more troublesome.

Thanks for all the replies.
Google ford body builders web site for the wiring diagrams.
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Thanks gstang462002, that's what I was looking for.
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https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas.../maintoc.html# Here ya go, Its in there somewhere.
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Why do you "have" to use a resistor? Is something going to burn up if you don't? I'm not buying that one. My 2006 didn't have a resistor and worked just fine for 7 years.
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The resistor value dictates the high idle speed. Different values will give you different RPMs. It's possible to put in a potentiometer and have it variable.

I don't know what no resister would do, but the lower the resistance, the higher the idle speed. According to the chart, 680 ohms would be 3,000 RPM
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I think the newer SEIC looks for the resistance (voltage drop) before it will activate.
And here is where I put my SEIC knob, center off switch (stationary-off-live) and on/off light.

ETA: Switch, button and 4 leds on the left are for the rear warning light controls
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I think the newer SEIC looks for the resistance (voltage drop) before it will activate.
And here is where I put my SEIC knob, center off switch (stationary-off-live) and on/off light.
ETA: Switch, button and 4 leds on the left are for the rear warning light controls
That looks sharp, is that 12v power point a factory point on the '12? In my '11 that is a useless cubbyhole that holds nothing when you step on the gas. I put hidden switches in there for my hide-away strobes, complete with a dimmer switch that I never use and a pattern select button that I never use(I like the options and it was just as easy to do the hookups now rather than later). All of my aux switches are used up for various warning lights hence the reason i built a control box to be independent from everything else.
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The resistor value dictates the high idle speed. Different values will give you different RPMs. It's possible to put in a potentiometer and have it variable.

I don't know what no resister would do, but the lower the resistance, the higher the idle speed. According to the chart, 680 ohms would be 3,000 RPM
It just will not work with no resistor. To make the potentiometer work you will need a 50K ohm potentiomenter and a 680 ohm resistor to make the values work for the full RPM range.
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Re: seic hookup

I have been reviewing a few posts about the high idle mod and i think I have a general understanding of it. But, i do have one question regarding using the high idle mod with the remote start. Most installations listed on here use one of the upfitter switches for power. . But since the up fitter switches dont get power until the key is turned on, the high idle cannot be set during a remote start. But if one were to get power from a constant 12v source, rather than the up fitter switch, would it be possible to remote start the truck with the seic on? Assuming the park brake was set

I am a huge fan of the cleanliness and simplicity of Wolf's install shown above. Could you share any part numbers for the switches and light you installed?

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I done a search and found the instructions to do the high idle hookup, my question is do you have to use a resistor or can it be like the 6.0 and just connect the wires? This will be on my new '13 F250 XLT 6.7. Any help.
Can I use the upfitter #3 that is a 10 amp circuit or do I need to use #4 that is a 15 amp circuit? Just like to save the heavier circuits for future use.

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