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Old 07-01-2002, 04:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Window Sticker Question

As some of you know I am shopping for a 2002 Excursion and I appreciate everyones help. I am just waiting for the new incentives to be released. I do have a question regarding princing. On the window sticker of a few Excursions I have looked at it shows a DVD Regional Discount of $300.00 and a Limited Luxury PKG Diskcount of $545.00 Does the dealer receive these discounts off of his price? I am hoping to get around dealer invoice w/holdback pricing. This is the center row on Bobby's price list. I just am not sure if I should subtract these from the dealer invoice. Also I have looked at Excursions at the same dealer without the discounts, but have the same options. Maybe they were ordered at different times? Should one be cheaper than the other? Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-02-2002, 05:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Window Sticker Question

If anyone can help me with this I would appreciate it as the incentives were not what I was hoping for. Thanks again.
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Re: Window Sticker Question

I don't know about the DVD regional discount. You don't have a location in your profile, so I have no idea where you're located.

But the "Limited Luxury PKG Diskcount of $545.00" is not a discount. It's a lower price for that package of options than you would get if you bought the items one at a time instead of in a pkg. That pkg has an invoice price and a sticker price. The sticker price is the big price minus the "discount". So no, there's no money there for the dealer to give you.

Use the price list from Bobby's website. Use the middle column to compute invoice price. Add about $200 for fuel and FDAF and you'll know real close to the actual invoice price. If you're buying on the X Plan, the X-plan price should be real close to the invoice price, not including TT&L.

Or find your truck on the following URL and it will give you the X-Plan price. Then subtract the rebate and add TT&L and you'll be there. Click here for x-plan prices.

A quick look on that link and I found a grey Limited Ultimate PSD with an X-Plan price of $40,529.04. Or $38,529.04 plus TT&L out the door.

BTW, Chevy doesn't make a diesel Suburban right now, so there's no competition for the PSD X-car.



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X Plan Inventory Locator

Smokey, thanks for the link. This allows you to compare a variety of configurations, and presents you the X Plan price. Makes it easier than adding up all the prices on the pricing sheets. :-)
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Re: Window Sticker Question

FYI. In the Dallas/Ft.Worth area there are a number of dealers advertising discounts off of MSRP. of between $9,000 to better than $10,000 on the new 02 X.
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Maybe I should fly down to Dallas and drive one home! If I could that type of discount on a Excursion I want. Let me know of some of the dealers and I will see if they have what I want. Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re: Window Sticker Question

Send me an E-mail address to reply to, I would rather not post dealer names on the forum. We have some great gentlemen in sales, that provide us a wealth of free information and support this board. I feel that out of respect, it would not be fair to post these local nonsupporting dealers names here.
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Re: Window Sticker Question

The $10,000 "savings" is a myth. It includes every pack they can dream up, including the package discounts that are on the window sticker. You'll hear some creative math when you ask them to show you the $10,000 savings.

The dealers below are all in suburbs of Dallas.

Town East Ford in Mesquite recently advertised $10,000 off on a new 2002 Excursion. They have a few in stock, but not a 4x4 Limited Ultimate that would add up to a $10,000 "savings".

http://www5.forddirect.fordvehicles....mp;statetoken=

www.towneastford.com

Randall Noe Ford in Terrell advertised "$9,355 Randal Noe discount" on a 2002 Excursion. The total "savings" they advertised was over $12,000, but that included the rebates and package discounts. When I checked they didn't have any X-car PSDs in stock.

www.randallnoe.com

The biggest Ford dealer in the country, and our sponsor for the annual Texoma rally, is Prestige Ford in Garland. They will meet any deal you can find on a new Ford, plus they have a huge inventory. If I were buying a Ford in the Dallas area, that's where I'd go first.

http://www5.forddirect.fordvehicles....mp;statetoken=

http://www.prestigegarland.com/

There are lots of other big Ford dealers in the Dallas area. Enter zip code 75041 in the X-plan links above and you'll see who they are.

Our advertising dealers aren't worried about a little competition. You'll soon find out that the $10,000 "savings" is a myth and that Bobby and Marty and Cochise can sell you the same truck for the same out-the-door price as the dealers with creative math. The only way you're going to beat their actual cash out-the-door price is to find a dog in stock that the dealer has had "forever" and wants to unload. You might get that one for a couple hundred less than Cochise's best price on a truck that folks want to buy, [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

But you have to find that out for yourself, so the above should get you started.
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Re: Window Sticker Question

Easy,
I did not say the the others could not or would not be able to match the advertised prices in the paper. I only said that Dallas dealers were advertising $10,000 to $12,000 off sticker. Yes this figure includes rebates, all dealers who put price leaders in the paper are going to advertise with the rebate, and any Ford pkg. discounts included in the sale price. Dallas is a very competitive area when it comes to car and truck sales, it gets damn near cut throat.
I have dealt with both Randall Noe and Town East, both have always had the advertised unit in stock when I went to look at them (even when it did not appear on their on-line inventory). The last Superduty F-250 Crew-Cab XLT 4x4 Off-Road Package True Blue PSD Auto, I purchased was from Town East Ford. This was in Dec of 01. No rebates at the time. It was in the ad for $7,500 off MSRP. and that is what I paid. No trade, no games, add TT&L plus 0% financing, drove the truck home. FYI it is not some ugly, one of a kind dog that they needed to move off the lot.
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