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Old 10-07-2010, 03:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Difference between 2011 DRW F-350 & 2011 F-450

We're looking to get a new truck after ours was stolen. What's the difference between the new 2011 F-350 DRW over the 2011 F-450 model?

Is the 450 a better option to go with? We're looking at purchasing a 4x2.

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There are a few posts already running discussing the differeneces.

Is a F450 better? Depends on what you want to do.
Go to the grocery store?
Tow heavy and alot?
Do U-turns more?
Impress your friends that you have the 450 badge instead of the 350 badge?
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Don't believe you can get 450 in 2 wheel drive.
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What's the difference between the new 2011 F-350 DRW over the 2011 F-450 model?
The differences that count are the towing capacity and turning radius. (The F-450 pickup has a tighter turning radius than the F-350 Drw with the same cab and 4x4.)

Also, the F-450 pickup comes only as a CrewCab 4x4.

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F-450 pickup CrewCab longbed 4x4 = 33,000 pounds, with a fifth-wheel "tow rating" of 24,400 pounds. So that means Ford estimates the truck with nothing but a skinny driver and 5er hitch would weigh only 8,600 pounds.

F-350 DRW pickup CrewCab 4x2= 29,000 pounds, with a fifth-wheel "tow rating" of 20,800 pounds. So that means Ford estimates the truck with nothing but a skinny driver and 5er hitch would weigh only 8,200 pounds.

The 4x4 accounts for about 300 pounds of that difference, so the remaining differences are about 100 pounds or less.

In a nutshell, the F-450 4x4 can tow a trailer that grosses about 3,600 pounds more than the max trailer weight of the F-350 DRW 4x2.

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Is the 450 a better option to go with? We're looking at purchasing a 4x2.
Since 4x2 is not available in factory F-450 pickup, then you'll have to begin with a chassis cab and build it up the way you want it. A lot more options are available for the chassis cab, but it doesn't come in the King Ranch trim level. But you can choose regular cab, SuperCab, or CrewCab, and XL, XLT or Lariat trim, and the Lariat interior pkg is available if you'd like such luxuries as air conditioned seats.

As to the bed, the F-450 chassis cab doesn't come with any sort of bed from Ford, but Ford can arrange for it to be delivered to you with any aftermarket bed you want (and are willing to pay for) from a flatbed to a dually pickup bed to a hauler bed. Look at the sticky post about beds and tow bodies in the Towing and Hauling forum.
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Thanks for all the info SmokeyWren. I appreciate your write-up.

That's a shame they don't make a 4x2 King Ranch F-450. Coming from a 6.0L 4x2 F-350, is the 2011 f-350 steering radius worse or about the same?

I just don't think I need a 4x4 truck that's all. We towed primarily on the 5th wheel when we had our 6.0L and the weight wasn't an issue with the size load and cars we tow.

Am I foolish for wanting a 4x2!? We basically just want to replace what we had stolen from us but obviously in a newer model. Crew Cab 4x2 King Ranch DRW
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That's a shame they don't make a 4x2 King Ranch F-450. Coming from a 6.0L 4x2 F-350, is the 2011 f-350 steering radius worse or about the same?
About the same as your 4x2.

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Am I foolish for wanting a 4x2!? We basically just want to replace what we had stolen from us but obviously in a newer model. Crew Cab 4x2 King Ranch DRW
Then go for a new F-450 pickup. The 4x4 will cost you a bit up front, and it will cost you a little bit over the lifetime of the truck. But it won't hamper your enjoyment of the truck in any way. And one big advantage is when backing the trailer up a grade, the 4x4-low gear is wonderful. Plus you'll get the money back down the road when you sell it or trade it in, and it will make the truck much easier to sell than a 4x2 in most parts of the country.

If you don't want the 4x4, period, then figure out how to order an F-450 chassis cab with all the right options (except King Ranch trim) with a hauler or pickup bed. Here's a hauler bed from B&W. Yeah, it's on a Chevy, and it has a gooseneck ball instead of a 5er hitch, but you get the idea:



And here's the AeroTow bed that Manning Truck Equipment can install:


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Also don't forget that the C&C is also very de-tuned. I was thinking about going this route until I found out that one fact.

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The differences that count are the towing capacity and turning radius. (The F-450 pickup has a tighter turning radius than the F-350 Drw with the same cab and 4x4.)

Also, the F-450 pickup comes only as a CrewCab 4x4.

GCWR:
F-450 pickup CrewCab longbed 4x4 = 33,000 pounds, with a fifth-wheel "tow rating" of 24,400 pounds. So that means Ford estimates the truck with nothing but a skinny driver and 5er hitch would weigh only 8,600 pounds.

F-350 DRW pickup CrewCab 4x2= 29,000 pounds, with a fifth-wheel "tow rating" of 20,800 pounds. So that means Ford estimates the truck with nothing but a skinny driver and 5er hitch would weigh only 8,200 pounds.

The 4x4 accounts for about 300 pounds of that difference, so the remaining differences are about 100 pounds or less.

In a nutshell, the F-450 4x4 can tow a trailer that grosses about 3,600 pounds more than the max trailer weight of the F-350 DRW 4x2.



Since 4x2 is not available in factory F-450 pickup, then you'll have to begin with a chassis cab and build it up the way you want it. A lot more options are available for the chassis cab, but it doesn't come in the King Ranch trim level. But you can choose regular cab, SuperCab, or CrewCab, and XL, XLT or Lariat trim, and the Lariat interior pkg is available if you'd like such luxuries as air conditioned seats.

As to the bed, the F-450 chassis cab doesn't come with any sort of bed from Ford, but Ford can arrange for it to be delivered to you with any aftermarket bed you want (and are willing to pay for) from a flatbed to a dually pickup bed to a hauler bed. Look at the sticky post about beds and tow bodies in the Towing and Hauling forum.
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