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Absolutely shocked the hell out of me too since they weren't supposed to be showing up till spring.
This wasn't a work truck either. It was going the opposite way of me, but looked like an F350 long bed SRW 4x4 King Ranch. My only reasoning for it being a 350 is because we don't see too many 250 long beds around here. It was the Dark Copper and Pueblo Gold two tone and had the painted grille shell and chrome bars inbetween. It happened pretty fast, but that new grille is unmistakable!
I'm guess with that set up it was more than likely equipped with the 6.7. My only guess was it was a demo for the local Ford house. I had just passed by there when I saw it. Damn, what a beautiful truck! I might have to stop by there and see if it is indeed their demo. I have a salesman friend there that is real cool and always gets his hands on the new demos to drive first.
I thought I saw one a couple of weeks ago on I-96 West bound here in MI. It was very close to the (now closed) Wixom plant. It was a ways away so I can't be sure. What drew my eye was the new Diesel badge on the driver door. Going that fast and in the other direction I can't be sure.
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I thought I saw one a couple of weeks ago on I-96 West bound here in MI. It was very close to the (now closed) Wixom plant. It was a ways away so I can't be sure. What drew my eye was the new Diesel badge on the driver door. Going that fast and in the other direction I can't be sure.
Funny you mention that. With everything else I recognized about the truck, the one thing I don't remember seeing was that honking diesel badge on the door. Maybe it was the Boss V8 instead.
you are right halliurton has something like 200 trucks for "real world" testing in northern states i have a local guy here who was down there for halliurton and said wow very nice truck
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They're rumoured to be much better, we'll wait and see.
That's the same thing they told us after 1/3 of our 6.0 truck were down all the time. I'll believe it when the proof is out there.
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you are right halliurton has something like 200 trucks for "real world" testing in northern states i have a local guy here who was down there for halliurton and said wow very nice truck
Florida Power and light also has some.
The problem is that they don't actually test these trucks like they should. They need to give some of us chassis cab guys some trucks to beat on and see how they last.
You might want to check your facts. Just spent a few hours talking with the ford powertrain engineers at the Detroit auto show. This is the most widely tested motor they have ever launched. It has spent over a year in Alaska and Arizona desert in all sorts of extreme environments around the clock. That doesn't even begin to address the lab testing on extreme temperatures that are far beyond what the truck will ever see. I am not going to run through all the things he shared. But this motor has been 3-4 years in the making.
You might want to check your facts. Just spent a few hours talking with the ford powertrain engineers at the Detroit auto show. This is the most widely tested motor they have ever launched. It has spent over a year in Alaska and Arizona desert in all sorts of extreme environments around the clock. That doesn't even begin to address the lab testing on extreme temperatures that are far beyond what the truck will ever see. I am not going to run through all the things he shared. But this motor has been 3-4 years in the making.
Show me ONE JUST ONE 6.7 chassis cab being tested in the field. That's all I'm asking. FL&P only has pickups for testing. When ford spoke with us about a test mule they stated "we don't test with chassis cabs". It's their deal. I'm not saying they don't test it but, it's not the same. Try having a guy crank his truck up at 5:30 am (outside temp is 80* humidity is 95%), drives to work, 19,500 lbs loaded with a work body and crane/boom. Goes to the jobsite, it's now say 6 or 7 am, temps climbing to 100*s and 90% humidity. Truck is running at high idle with the PTO engaged running the boom for 4 or 5 hours, still hot, Tech takes 30 min lunch, is he gonna shut the A/C off? nope. Now it's about 3 or 4 PM (when the economy is good sometimes it 6 or 7 or even later into the night), tech packs up tools, folds up boom, shuts PTO off and heads for home but first he's got to run through sugar sand, mud and muck for 3 or 4 miles 4 low, 1st or 2nd gear (6.4 and 6.0 can't turn the 19.5s over in 4 high which is needed to clean the treads and keep traction). Keep in mind the trans is still hot from the PTO running. Now he's on the highway in a few more miles running 75+ mph back to his house. I can bet that every time he's on the go peddle it's 100% throttle to at least 50 mph.
Do you understand my point to testing with chassis cabs? Just look at the halliburton 6.0 Ford shows, Crew Cab 4x4 with a service body and tandem axle gooseneck. That's the way testing should be conducted. You can not simulate that work in a lab.
Yeah, seems like a walk in the park to me quite honestly. Much harder than running a motor to 1200 degrees and supercooling it. Must hard than running it for 24 hours straight wide open in the desert. Much harder than an entire winter in Anchorage at 30 below. The new tranny comes with a PTO built in, so I am guessing it is a safe bet that it has been tested.
I for one couldn't care less how they perform in those extreme conditions and neither could Ford, Chevy or GM. I don't need/want a truck that can survive that, know why? It would cost 200K. Know why they don't make airplanes with giant parachutes? Cost. Same here. You test for the 95% population, which isn't even close to what you mention. Find me a GM or Dodge person that does, and I will gladly eat and entire truck with no salt. HAHA
Yeah, seems like a walk in the park to me quite honestly. Much harder than running a motor to 1200 degrees and supercooling it. Must hard than running it for 24 hours straight wide open in the desert. Much harder than an entire winter in Anchorage at 30 below. The new tranny comes with a PTO built in, so I am guessing it is a safe bet that it has been tested.
I for one couldn't care less how they perform in those extreme conditions and neither could Ford, Chevy or GM. I don't need/want a truck that can survive that, know why? It would cost 200K. Know why they don't make airplanes with giant parachutes? Cost. Same here. You test for the 95% population, which isn't even close to what you mention. Find me a GM or Dodge person that does, and I will gladly eat and entire truck with no salt. HAHA
Did I miss grammar school here? What are you last three sentences supposed to mean?
Did I miss grammar school here? What are you last three sentences supposed to mean?
Pretty simple. Ford, GM and Dodge couldn't care less what 1% of the population does with their trucks, nor should they. The other 99% of us don't want to subsidize building a truck for that minority, that would increase the cost of it 20%. Same reason why they killed the standard shift, nobody buys it and it isn't worth making it for the few extra trucks they would sell. Cheaper to send those buyers a $20 bill and tell them to buy a Chev or Dodge. Basic economics. The cost of the R&D, separate assembly line, along with everything else invovled with adding another option don't warrant it. Kind of like offering a 12" lift kit. Sure, some people would buy it, but all of the buyers they push away not having it don't make up for the cost of offering it.
test schmest!! they always test their stuff. pretty hard too. and in the first 1/2 to 2 years of production it always has some sort of update, change, improvement etc.
1%?? what?? more than one percent have trucks in sub zero temps. same for 100 plus desert temps. and i do want it to hold up in those conditions. this way my weather will be "a walk in the park"
this truck is destin for problems, i just know it. and fixing it will be a nightmare.
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