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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-09-2017, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
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Tailgate Question

So, I had my tail gate stolen a few months ago.
Finally got my new one today and after I get home, the wife says "I don't remember this line".
After looking at old pix, it looks like they ordered a tail gate for a 2013.

Anyway, I like how the lines look, but my back up camera doesn't line up with the ball on my hitch.

Could the 2013 tail gate be that much different in how the handle mounts that it is throwing off the camera?

I am going to call the shop tomorrow, but I'm sure they are going to say it doesn't matter, so I figured I would ask the experts.

They mentioned today that I may need to do a calibration on the camera?
Sounds like a load but I thought I would throw that one out there also.

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on my 2013 the camera is in the ford oval.


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I understand that.

I should have been more clear.

The camera on a 2012 is in the handle.
Could mounting the camera/handle from a 2012 onto a 2013 tail gate be the root cause of my issue?

The shop mounted the handle/camera and the blue oval, both from a 2012, onto a 2013 tailgate shell.

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Update from body shop.

They said they contacted Ford, I'm sure that means a local dealer, and was told that Ford did a PN revision and the 2013 tailgate is the only one you can get now. So 2011 and 2012 guys will get the 2013 tailgate in the future. If this is true, I'm skeptical.

He also said that "Ford" said they made the gate wider for better "fit".
I'm not buying this one.
My buddy has a 2012, same truck as me, I'm going to put them side by side this week and take some measurements.

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Thanks for the update:

I just looked and my truck is the only Super Duty in the parking lot now, I'll have to measure tomorrow.


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Is it not lining up left to right or front to back? If it is not lined up front to back I could easily see the tailgate being a little "thicker" and throwing of the angle just enough. The 2013 tailgate was designed to have the camera in the logo and it would take much of an angle change to the handle to throw of the alignment. With that said I would think the body shop would be able to adjust the angle enough for it to line up.
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It is off left to right.

Body shop tried everything they seemed to know how....... Not sure if that means a whole lot.

I have told them that I would like to have a 2013 handle and 2013 blue oval with the camera mounted in the oval per design.
We will see what they say.

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You should be able to use your tailgate harness with a new bezel to mount the camera.

The part number bezel is...

FORD OEM Bezel - AL3Z-19H511-A approx $22.00

2010 and up handle will work.

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The book does show for the tailgate shell itself is 2011- 2014 as 1 part # DC3Z 9940700B

But does have the 2 different dates for the camera in handle 11-12, in oval 13-14

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... Ford did a PN revision and the 2013 tailgate is the only one you can get now. So 2011 and 2012 guys will get the 2013 tailgate in the future. If this is true, I'm skeptical.
I had to replace my tailgate some time back and ran into the same thing. My parts guy told me the extra line in the gate keeps it from being wavy.

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He also said that "Ford" said they made the gate wider for better "fit".
I'm not buying this one.
Me neither. I reused all the hardware for mine and it lines up perfectly. I don't have a camera in mine so there might be something different there.

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You should use a solenoid on your new tailgate to keep it from being stolen again. I used this:

Pop & Lock PL8250 Power Tailgate Lock for Ford (For tailgate with OEM lock)
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Update:
Shop said they talked to a Ford Dealer and dealer says the new camera needs to be calibrated.
So I will take my truck in Saturday morning to have that done.
I will report back after that is complete.

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Calibrated? Never heard of a camera needing calibrated. Maybe they will use a bigger hammer and chisel.

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I will report back after I go to the dealer.
If the camera lines up with the hitch, then I'm happy.

FYI, camera's need calibrated all the time.
I use camera's, laser's, sensor's etc in my line of work. They all come with calibration standards and have to be verified/recalibrated on a regular basis.

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I will report back after I go to the dealer.
If the camera lines up with the hitch, then I'm happy.

FYI, camera's need calibrated all the time.
I use camera's, laser's, sensor's etc in my line of work. They all come with calibration standards and have to be verified/recalibrated on a regular basis.
There are no procedures in the Ford Workshop DVD for camera calibration nor a procedure if the guidelines are not centered. These cameras are not high tech units even though you might think so with the current pricing on them.

They are going to say, yup, there are guidelines, nope they do not line up. We can re-install the camera and see if there is a misalignment from your install. Maybe not charge you or maybe only charge you an hour labor.

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