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Old 04-29-2011, 09:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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dual alternators or Heavy duty alternator

What do you guys perfur the dual alternator set up of the heavey duty alternators?

I am leaning toward the dual alternator set up my dad who is a Heavy duty Mechanic feels that the duel set up is better because the single will create more heat and could cause it to fail faster. I would like to have the dual set up but it is hard to find one set up with the dual alternators and the other goodies I want.

Here is the truck I want to have, it is looking doughtful that I will be able to build this. So I am looking at inventory vehicles and what options I may live with or with out.110419-F350-price-no nav.pdf
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the most important thing that I want is a Black truck and I cant get that so ordering is a no go. I need to find what is on the lots now.
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the most important thing that I want is a Black truck and I cant get that so ordering is a no go.
That was true for only a few days. Ford now is building black trucks using the black clearcoat from the 2010 and earlier model years. The special metalic black for the 2011 model year won't be available for at least several months, so Ford reverted to the non-metalic black clearcoat for current and near-future production.

Check with your dealerperson. He should be able to order you a new black truck, but maybe not a 2011 model with your exact specs. It's now very late in the model year, and many options have already been "balanced out", i.e., no longer available for the 2011 model year. Black metalic paint has also been balanced out, but the black clearcoat should now be available in the Ford new vehicle ordering system.

If you order a new 2012 model now, you should be driving it by late July or early August.
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Add another one for dual alternators....had them on my 04, 09 and my 11.
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Dual

Dual for me...
Since I ordered, the price didn't change that much at that point
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if no dual u can add them it show's how on ford fleet just so u know
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whats Ford Fleets? Is this a web site?
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What do you guys perfur the dual alternator set up of the heavey duty alternators?

I am leaning toward the dual alternator set up my dad who is a Heavy duty Mechanic feels that the duel set up is better because the single will create more heat and could cause it to fail faster.
How does your dad, the "Heavy duty Mechanic" deal with the reality that twice as many alternators mean twice as many things that can fail, and twice as many things to pay for when it happens?

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How does your dad, the "Heavy duty Mechanic" deal with the reality that twice as many alternators mean twice as many things that can fail, and twice as many things to pay for when it happens?
My Dad, the "Heavy Duty Mechanic" and I a "Mechanical Engineering Technologist" can understand your point of view that when you add more components in to a system one has a greater chance of failure. However the possibility of failure, in this case is comparing a single alternator to a duel alternator system. What do you think are some of the modes of failures for Alternators? Bearings, wiring, belt? We can take the belt of the list as you have just as much possibility of the belt breaking with either set up. Now why would the bearings fail or the wiring? Heat. So if a single alt is making 150 amp power and you have a duel alt system making 150 amps, which system is working harder? Based on heat generation the single system is working harder as it will run much hotter. If heat is a bad thing for a bearing and wires and the single alt see more heat cycles would you not have a higher probability of failure in the system? We say yes.
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My Dad, the "Heavy Duty Mechanic" and I a "Mechanical Engineering Technologist" can understand your point of view that when you add more components in to a system one has a greater chance of failure.
That's my point. Heat, bearings, yada, yada, statistically, the more components you add, the more opportunities for failure. 'Nuff said.
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What do you guys perfur the dual alternator set up of the heavey duty alternators?

I am leaning toward the dual alternator set up Attachment 10933

I know old post but over all my theory on most of these type questions is order/get what initially pops in your head and you "want". Either way its gonna be a great set up and if one does fail it will be a small cost compared to your overall purchase. Its alot cheaper to get what you want now then to change and it sucks making a payment on a truck that you wish you had got x instead of y.
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