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Old 05-18-2003, 07:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

I am going to get a f-250 crew cab and i cant decide which engine to get. I tow a small boat 5 times a year, so i really dont need a truck to tow. i will mainly use this truck for hunting and taking the family around town. So could someone tell me if the 5.4 is a good motor to consider for my situation. And what kind of milage could i exspect with a f-250 crew cab with the 5.4. thanks [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

This is exactly what I had before my current truck. I sold the truck after two months. IMO, the 5.4 is not enough engine for a crew cab. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

the ? is how big is your boat?i have seen a couple running around.if that is waht fits your bill...go for it.alot of people use them for commuters.
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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

Don't even THINK about a 5.4 in a crewcab/4x4/auto. It's BARELY adequate with a handshaker...but I suggest either coughing up the extra cash for the diesel, accepting the 12MPG of a V-10, or (probably the least-painful option) hunting down a used 7.3 PSD crewcab.
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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

Well I have a Super Cab not a Crew Cab but it moves the truck around just fine. I get about 10 mph when towing and I normally get around 12 mpg when cruising around town. I don't have any long road trips without some kind of towing on the truck yet so I don't really know what the highway mileage will be. I picked the truck off the lot last year and they had no V10's to speak of that is why I ended up with it.

I don't really know who to believe when it comes to mileage reports... I have seen V10 guys post as good as 18mpg. I can say I don't expect that out of my truck, I figure 14 should be the best I will get. I am heavy footed so keep that in mind.

Oh, my heaviest tow is about 8,000 lbs and the truck did just fine, my normal load is 5,000 lbs and it’s hard to tell it’s there. I pulled a trailer with 3 4wheelers on it (maybe 2,500 lbs) on a weekend trip (lots of gear) and I did forget it was back there… I got 11 mpg doing 80 on that trip. I hope this helps you out.
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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

Just got 2003 crewcab with 5.4l. Only use it for transportation and towing snowmobile trailer with 2 sleds. With 1500 miles on it, the average for the first 1500 miles is 14.2 mpg around town and on highway.Am very happy! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/warmsmile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/warmsmile.gif[/img]
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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

If you're set on getting the 5.4L, at least get the 4.10 rear-end. You're not gonna smoke the tires from
a traffic light, but it'll at least give you a bit more pep. The 5.4 has to work a bit harder, so don't count
on getting any better mileage than the V10. Take note since Crew Cab 4x4 w/5.4L isn't a popular
combination, it might be a bit harder to sell later.
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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

My truck is a Y2K F250 SD 4X2 CC 5.4 AT 4.10LS w/ 46K miles. So far, so good. As noted above, the 4.10 axle is the way to go with this motor. The 260 HP motor is a vast improvement over the earlier 235 HP version. Mine runs better on 88 or 89 octane gas than it does on regular 87.

My brother's F250 has the V10 and 3.73 axle, but is otherwise the same. We get comparable fuel economy under similar conditions: ~10-12 in suburbia, ~13 towing our identical 3,250 lb. trailers, and ~15-16 lightly loaded on the highway.

The V10 option includes more than a bigger motor with more HP and torque. Ford also throws in a bigger cooling system, stronger 3-pinion diff's in the SC and CC models (vs. 2-pinion), and, with the AT, a lower stall-ratio torque converter (less heat) and a bigger toque converter clutch.

Considering that the 4.10 rear is an option with the 5.4, the price difference is even norrower that it seems at first.

Good luck with your decision.

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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

WOW, What a great site for information.Thanks for all the information,at least now i know what i am looking at ,as far as millage and pulling abillity. Thanks to all again.
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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

Lets see, you want the Biggest truck made.Crew cab in a 4x4, is it Long bed or short bed ?? well that dont matter..
I would think that the biggest Gas engine would fit that ticket its better to have more than to look back and so I should have got the V-10.
I dont know anybody that has a V-10 say I should have got the 5.4 V-8
Now, Now I am NOT bashing the 5.4 its a great engine but I think bigger is better when it come to the Crew cab in 4x4.

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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

You could get by with the 5.4L V8, but I wouldn't put it in my Super Duty. If I was to look at the disadvantages of the V10 over the V8, It would be a short list:
- $600
- 1-2 MPG(maybe)

You should test drive both the V8 and the V10 in your configuration before you purchase. This will give you a good idea of what to expect.

A $600 option on a $34,000 truck is virtually nothing.



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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

Pigroasts,

I'd go for the V-10 or PSD also for many of the reasons stated above, but most of all for resale value.
Most guys that will be looking for something similar when it comes time to sell or trade will probably do a little heavier towing or hauling with it than you plan to do. Just my .02 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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The V10 option includes more than a bigger motor with more HP and torque. Ford also throws in a bigger cooling system, stronger 3-pinion diff's in the SC and CC models (vs. 2-pinion), and, with the AT, a lower stall-ratio torque converter (less heat) and a bigger toque converter clutch.


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Can you expand a bit on 3pinion diffs, 2pinion diffs?
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Re: Is 5.4 good for a crew cab

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I dont know anybody that has a V-10 say I should have got the 5.4 V-8


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MEMEMEMEME. Well I've never driven a 5.4, cc, 4x4, lb like I have but I'm sure I wouldn't notice much difference. I tow a 5x12 trailer with a ATV and mower every now and then. Mostly just around town.

I do like the HD items you get with a V10. Bought mine used BTW.

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Can you expand a bit on 3pinion diffs, 2pinion diffs?

[/ QUOTE ] The differential contains either two- or three-pinion gears contained by the cage attached to the ring gear. It's the pinion gears that rotate between the side gears to allow different wheel speeds while turning.

As best I can tell, all 5.4-equipped SD's come with 2-pinion gear differentials, and all PSD-equipped SD's come with stronger 3-pinion gear diffs. V-10-equipped regular cab models come with the 2-pinion diff, and SC and CC models with the V-10 come with the 3-pinion diff.

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